Being Clear That You DON'T Want A Relationship



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:00 pm 
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So I really don't know how to make this obvious without saying it to a girl.

I don't want to trick a girl into thinking I want a relationship, bang her then leave her to pick up the pieces.

Whats the best way to make it clear that you're not really looking for anything but you're not going to refuse a potential relstionship either?

Basically an answer for all those girls you just want to bed!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 3:35 pm 
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Man, a true advice: you really gonna make less sex if you do in this way.

I know, cause it's my problem. Girls always notices that you just want to fuck.
And this aint what they want.

I got a big sticking point, sometimes I mean as I just want sex, sometimes I mean very interested, in fact, I can't pretend my real intentions most of the time. This is a big deal.

The ideal is be linked as a man who want sex and a relationship, a complete package. Because most of the ladies don't want just sex, so what you gonna do? Let another asshole to fuck em all? I guess you dont.

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I've found some material that can help you, Frank Kermit on women's emotional needs:

The 10 Emotional Needs of a Woman

I have identified 10 emotional-needs categories.

1 The protection of her most valuable asset: Her Reputation

2 Women want to FEEEEL a range of emotions. Do not try to make her happy, give her a full range from fury to ecstasy. This is a.k.a. her Drama Cookie

3 Cater to the little girl in her. Know when to ignore her ramblings and when she needs you to give her a hug. Sometimes she just needs to be reassured like a little kid

4 Be dominant and take responsibility for leading the relationship. This includes making all the decisions, and taking 100% responsibility for the sex in the relationship. It all has to be the man's "fault"

5 She fears abandonment. This is part biological programming, as in the event she is left with a child, she needs to be sure that she will not be abandoned, and left alone to care for it. This covers her emotional need to feel secure. This is 50% of the reason that she desires martial commitment.

6 Trust. The key here is if she can trust you to be honest with her; even if you know she will not like what you have to say. In a woman's reality, she is used to people lying to her ALL THE TIME because of the way she looks, or they simply want something from her. If you are willing to piss her off with your honesty, you have demonstrated that she can trust you.

7 Her physical safety. A man must demonstrate that he is capable of protecting her physically from the threats of the outside world. This is to make her feel safe.

8 Women need to know you can handle her TRUE sexuality. She will only be as wanton with you as you demonstrate that you can handle it. She needs to explore her sexuality and let it be free with you as a Natural Woman

9 Prove that you have high quality sperm. The best way is by showing other girls want to have sex (procreate) with you, and/or you are a "good catch" and the kids with you will also be a "good catch" enough to also attract a mate. This is the other 50% of the reason that she desires martial commitment. On this one alone, a man can get sex in certain cases.

10 Prove that you are not a homosexual. She knows every homosexual male friend she has is not out of the closet yet. Could you be one too?

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You must pay special attention on the 5# emotional need, she wants to know that you really care about her, and youre asking us how to infringe that!

Her 1# emotional need is also important: she doesnt want to be see as another slut, in a "just sex" relationship.

Hope this help you!

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So what u both are saying is lead her on?


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I don't know if this works for everyone, but it's worked for me in the past. Don't lead her on. Be honest. If this is a girl you've slept with/hooked up with one or more times, you don't necessarily need to tell her one way or the other whether you want a relationship. If she brings it up though, or you sense that is what she wants, tell her the truth. That you're not looking for a long term commitment, and that you wanted to tell her that because you don't want to see her get hurt. That way you're telling her the truth, but you're being sensitive. She may say that she doesn't want to hook up with you any more if that's the case. So you say ok, you understand, and then a few days later, wait for that phone to ring again :lol: .


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Its a good view Shades_, but I think you cant be honest until you have f-closed her. She needs to know what she may lost.

Vat, lead on is all about pick up. I know sometimes this is really "evil", but man, you can't bring happy to anyone in this world and after take it back without being evil.

This is what all of us are trying to do, some of the best men here are even doing it all the time: pick up a lady, drives her crazy, being the most interesting man she ever know, and then go out...

You need to choose.

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So, if she asks 'what are you looking for?', should I tell her I'm not sure and play it that way?

So its all about leading her on, fucking her and then breaking it off??


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I have always made it a point to be very clear about my intentions up front before anything seriously physical took place. I'll stop a girl moments before sex and say, "Listen, I like you a lot, but you know this is never going to be anything more than what it is, right?"

Not one time has a woman NOT slept with me because I said that.

This works for one of two reasons: either A) she doesn't care or wasn't looking for a relationship either, or (the more likely reason) B) she assumes that she will eventually be able to sway your opinion and "tame the beast."

Either way, what's going on in her head is none of your concern. The important thing is that you were honest from the get-go and your conscience is clear.

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Thing is tho, what should you say to questions like 'what are u looking for'?

I recently hooked up with a girl...I told her that I wasn't sure what I want but I thought she was cool...

We made out a few times and on day 2 went back to hers.. She didnt let me fuck her so I left. There were no bad vibes.

Now she hasn't called me for 2 weeks.

How smooth should you play it usually in regards to sex?

Should I pace myself and make her perceive me as someone who just doesn't want sex?? Girls pick up on these vibes too quick!


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when i say i dont want anything or i 'dont do relationships' or make a joke about it seems to work to my advantage. chicks perceive that as a challenge from my experience.

its how you answer it. "i just wanna fuck" wont work, but "i take things day by day and im open minded to anything" then change the subject probably would out.


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yea it is definately how you word it
comfort her enough and no matter what she will just feel safe with you
whether you are friends with benefits or going in a relationship
once you get what you want and find out what she wants, get the happy medium

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I have had this happen twice inside of a year. So I meet this one chick early last semester, HBdarkness. We see each other one other time and then on a night when I was bored I txt her. The txt game I pulled was fucking perfect, I mean grand-fucking-slam perfect. I go over to a friend of ours and we make out and grope for like an hour. First time I ever kissed a girl. It felt like God, just the most insanely awesome thing I have ever done. (I did not fuck her because I had no rubbers and she did not want to go back to my place, she would have rather had me penetrate her in my 94' Isuzu Trooper) When we were making out, I told her I did not want anything to serious and she felt the same. Anyway, after that whenever I tried to establish contact w/ her, my depression (been battling that shit for like a year) got in the way or she would flake. At the beginning of this semester, I see her at this same friends house and try to kiss her, she would not. She tells me that there is some other dude who she is twitterpated with and asks to be friends. I did not because my reality was that she wanted to be physically intimate with me. I also in a really nice way and without offending her, told her that it felt like everything was ending before it got started (I ain't what you say, it's how). HBdarkness agreed that if she ever changed her mind, she would contact me.

So than like three weeks ago this korean HB basically asks me out. She is not a girl who I would have normally approached but because she did most of the work, I said "Okay." The date went well, no kiss but whatever. So today we have lunch and it all goes well, though I noticed that she had some issues w/ me touching her. Whatever. So in the car I ask if I may kiss her. She then goes on for a bit about me being just a friend. I say that I see us as more than friends. I was cool with that, but my expectations were different, and I let her know that. She actually was shocked that I would have sex with a HB who wasn't my gf. I told her, that I would only do stuff off campus w/ me if she changed her mind.

Though I am still a virgin gentleman, I feel that I handled myself well in each situation. My frame, my reality, was strong, not stronger than theirs but of equal strength. I was honest about my intentions and expectations and was totally chill that theirs differed.

Remember guys, frame most of the interaction around sex even if it is day game. (The language barrier may have made this difficult with the korean HB but I feel that I acquiitted myself well in spite of that.) Bust on them for making you talk in innuendo and for all your actions when you touch them whatnot.

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