Hi,
I need your advice!!!!!
I've met a girl a month or so ago. We have spent some time with mutual friends (who told me that she is single) and I helped her with hw (by tutoring her). We had fun together and she seemed excited being with me.
Anyway, a couple of weeks ago I asked her out and she said yes. We spoken over the phone the same night and we agreed to go out together.
BUT when I called her (the next day) to let her know at what time I was going to pick her up she said that she can't come and when I asked why she said that she is expecting a visit from her boyfriend who (as she said) lives in another city. She also said that she would call me next week!!!
I got angry and upset and let it show.
Half an hour later I texted her a message apologizing for my burst.
I know that she will probably need my help again with her hw.
3 days ago she called me (once), but I was busy and couldn't answer. And the day after the same: she called (once) but again I was unable to answer.
I tried calling her, but her phone was off.
Since I am what you could call "a nice (stupid) guy" I texted her saying that I was working and that if she needs anything she can call me.
Although I want to listen to what she wants, a part of me feels that it will only make me feel worse.
Any idea on what I should do next?
Should I call in a couple of days and ask what's going on? or should I let her call first?

thanks in advance

hi mate,

ok so she has a boyfriend and she accepted a date with you.
she is into you.
so, give her another ring whenever... now for example. and if her phone is off or if she lets it ring and ring then sorry mate, but i would say move on and forget.

but if she picks up the call, that in itself is sign of interest so play it cool dude. dont sweat in, you are the alpha guy right- you are the one with loads of options and a fxxxing great future etc etc. so so just chill and set up another date if she takes the call- ok?
hope it works out for ya...

Hey dude,

Id start by trying to let go a bit, you sound a bit needy?
Im not trying to offend you btw, i want you to get this girl back just as much as you do. so heres what i think....

1. Stop being nice and kissing her ass, dont approve of her flaking on you ether.
exsample;
she says: oh sorry i cant make it tongiht because of *shit excuse*
you say: oh, ok.

do not give her the satisfaction of knowing what you're thinking.

your acting like shes the prize too. so i would concentrate on getting some value back by not giving yourself away so much. play around a bit and dont try and be her boyfriend.

theres alot of things you could do though i suppose.

best advice i could probably give you is read one of mystery's books. this will help.

Swift

well,
tomorrow I'm not working so I'm thinking of sending her the following text (in the morning):
"in the afternoon I'm going to take my car for a ride and I'm going to have some fun. if you want to come call me (no later than 5).
PS1. OK I admit it, I just received my new custom made whip and fingernail extractor and need someone to test them )))
PS2. You better bring your favorite CD with you or you'll have to listen to X all the time ))"

the whip and the fingernail extractor is a joke we used when I helped her with her hw and she made mistakes. the X is her least favorite singer

so what do you think????? should I try it????

hey!!!
sounds good. see what happens.
Ladies by definition are flakey so don't pin too much on it.
hope you get lucky.

I get a strange feeling your new to all of this, so welcome. Realize this is more about finding yourself then getting the girl right off the bat, once you realize who you are and the confidence to back it up, then you get the girl and keep her.

First your mind frame is completely wrong, you have been conditioned to the way women say they want to be treated instead of how they actually want to be treated. There is nothing wrong with a nice guy, as long as your not needy or clingy.

Lets raise that confidence up a bit, start understanding your the prize. you can walk away from any situation at any time, because you have options and are unafraid. You are 100% unconcerned about the outcome of the situation and simply enjoy the situation itself. If it the situation does not work out big deal, know your strong enough to tolerate any outcome.

Once you get this mindframe, start acting like you feel, most of it will feel wrong as though your going against what your taught. in which you are and its a good thing.

set limits, its not cool to flake on you. express that in a confident way thats not over bearing. Dont give ultimatums, simply back off when you dont get the desired result. never use the words im sorry or apologize. If you make a mistake, simply say, it was never my intention.

IE she takes what you say the wrong way and is upset. all that needs to be said. If you took it that way, it was never my intention, i now learned a new boundary, lets move on from here.

Give her a call, if she does not pick up leave her a message, simple but intriging. I tend to use (the funniest thing happened to me today that reminded me of you, anyways ill talk to you later) then she wants to call back the find out the story. make sure you have one ready, that seems funny and you can relate to her in some way.

if she does answer, same thing. ( the funniest thing happened to me today that reminded me of you, oh by the way im going for a drive, its going to be a blast you should join me) if she asks about the story ( i cant give away all my secrets just yet) thats the response to use. Keep the call short and sweet, get the answer and say you have to go.

the mind frame is key, remember that.

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Man, do your best, but don't expect too much. From what you've written I don't think you can actually "get her back". Go there and try your luck, but it's not a big deal if she LJBF's you. There's plenty of fish out there
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Hi again,
as I was getting ready to send her the message I mentioned earlier she called.
I let it ring 3 or 4 times and then answered and (at my surprise) I managed to stay cool and act indifferent through the call
she asked how I spent the last few days and I said marvelous (I lied of course) and she reacted a bit annoyed
she said that she was trying to call me to go for a coffee (I hate my job)
she sounded a bit unhappy but instead of trying to cheer her up at that point I remained indifferent
I avoided mentioning anything about rescheduling the coffee
finaly she asked for my help (again) but I told her that I'm busy this week and I can only be available next Monday morning (she has a class at that time).
she said she will skip the class and when I said that there's no way to let her in my house and so she asked me to go to her place (I told her something C&F) and she begun laughing and sounded happy
she even offered to prepare a coffee for me
the she said that she doesn't have my email but I never answered her and changed the subject
I finally told her that I had to go and told her to call me on Monday morning for the address

I guess I'll have to prepare my game now for Monday
I'm thinking of giving her the 5-lies game and the winner to choose where we will go on Monday night

any suggestions?

i agree completely.

my question to altrumon is: does she have a genuine attraction for you, or simply flirt with you so you will help her with her homework? make sure you are in her head where you think/want to be. not some tool for that HB to take advantage of.

if all of that is well, then your next encounter you need to touch her (kino). playfully touch her and laugh while doing it. from your point there are millions of routines and tactics you can use, but make sure you escalate. if not, and you dont convey a sexual presence, friend zone here you come.

well, here I am again...
I decided to blow some steam off and went out with friends last night.
In our group there was a girl that seems to like me and I decided to play a little.
So I took her away in a private booth (in fact I used something that happened to me yesterday: I received some really bad news and asked her if she could keep me company and help me forget about it) and begun using some of the stuff on her.
Everything was going very well.
And then I decided to use something stupid (for me at least): I begun telling her how much I care for her and I want her to be happy, (blahh blahh blahh, as if I was getting ready to tell her that I love her). BUT while she was ready to hear the grand finale I asked her: "Can I drink your water? I'm too thirsty"
She was shocked and stood there for a second (I guess she couldn't believe that I can be so stupid) and then stormed on me and kissed me!!!!!
BUT as we were making out my one-itis returned to my mind and I cut her off.
I finally told her that I'll call her and left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ah the one-itis.....ur chasing, don't chase, let girls chase you, shows you are the leader, the alpha-male. I just got out of a relationship with my girl and she has a new bf the next day, yea it sucked, i was depressed and trying to figure out ways to get her back but it was bringing down my social value.....u spent a month with her, and no kiss i suppose? u took too long in the comfort zone, shouldve had a kiss by the time u reached the max of 20 hours total of being around her and talking to her.

its hard, but i did it, millions of other men did it, just move on....

ever heard that saying "if you love something so much you will set it free, and if it comes back, it is meant to be" well there you go =D

good luck!

here are the latest news:
I webt to her house today to help her with her hw.
She opened the door, we hugged (she initiated) and kissed (cheeks)
she made for me some coffee and we begun our session
Anyway, to cut this sort, I begun with Kino and jokes and DHVs etc. and she was showing IOIs (touching back, asking about me, eye contact, licking her lips etc.)
I begun Kino escalation, touching her hair, hi-5s (she even begun holding my hand after that) and for a while we sat holding hands.
I tried some trust tests and she passed and I "revealed" that I can read palms. She asked me to read hers and after reading for her only the sun line I explained to her that it is something that needs more time and she said that we must find the time another day for palm reading and for cubing her.
Everything was going great for the first couple of hours, until she asked for some help for her facebook page. There I saw her status saying "in a relationship" and as we were looking at her photos she said "that's my boyfriend" (an ugly older gay).
After that I was feeling as if my entire world collapsed. I stayed at her house for half an hour or so (I couldn't just stand up and run).
Finally I told her that I have to go and she asked me (again) to give her my email. I told her give me yours and she wrote it. After that she asked me if I can go to her house again on Wednesday and on Thursday for more tutoring and I said yes!!!!

What now????? Do you people have any suggestions or ideas of what I should do to win her?????
I'm thinking of cancelling the Wendesday morning meeting and later the same day try asking her out on the same afternoon (saying that we will have the time to read her palm and cube her)

I hope that you will have some ideas on what I can do from now on

PS (Edit). I forgot to mention that while we were in her house I told her that I'm planning to go on a trip in 2 weeks and we searched online for tickets and when I told her come with me she said OK. After I selected the flights and as I was ready to complete the transaction she said let's think about it and decide later. She's driving me crazy

Wow man you really need to see if this is going somewhere cause now you're flying to some place together? What's the update on the relationship between your target and her BF? If they are still really close then you should just stop pursuing her and go for someone else. You really shouldn't be doing all this nice stuff for her if you are aiming to be "together" with her because this looks as if you guys are best friends now which I'm guessing you don't want.

actually as I said in my post she had LMR when I was ready to book the tickets

as for her relationship I didn't asked but when I said if she's getting ready to get married she said "No way"

and yet another update...
she just emailed me (I emailed her earlier giving her some info she needed for her hw) and told me that she changed her schedule and therefore starting next week she's going to be in my class (!!!!!!!) until the end of the season and she said that she made that so that I will be able to explain things to her better!!!!!!!!! We are both attending computer classes in the same comunity center
I have to tell her to stay away.