Hey bros,

Was thinking last night ... some of us have made good progress over the last years, months and weeks but have we forgotten some actions/frames that are typically AFC? List down some AFC things that we may still be carrying over. Or overusing outer-game to the point of coming off AFC. I'll start and you can add your thoughts/criticism:

1) Immediate kino - thinking you've come so far with the game that you immediately kino an HB without a neg/opener to back it up. Might make you come off a little creepy or too try-hard.

2) Peacocking - is it possible to overcook the cock? Moderation might be helpful! Too many rings and bracelets may be getting in the way of that HB thinking you have a personality underneath the "props".

3) Storytelling - if it's the "never-ending story" you might want to shorten the version, I think. Use it as a thread for something useful to yourself at that moment, otherwise you lose your audience.

4) Day2 - following up with a "we met at so-and-so and I'm the guy that got your number after ...". Maybe a naughty text building on the opener or neg u used in the first place can do better, I don't know.

... do add on your thoughts, as I think I might personally be inadvertently making some of these mistakes and more.

I use none of that stuff and still have no issues. Most of it won't work in much of the world.

seems liek you're overthinking this

the immediate kino is only a problem if you perceive it as a problem

peacocking is all in personal taste

never heard of endless stories

and that was a fail day 2 starter

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Precisely my point - is this stuff being overthought and pulling some people back?

most of that is purely for AFCs and rAFC.

anyone with experience manipulates their own game

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1. Theirs never been a standard reason to neg. EVER! It's an added extra, it's VERY seldomly needed.

2. Obviously, but not everyone really pea-cocks anymore.. i thought that peacocking was a 2nd gen thing. I didn't realise it was still that widly used for over-use to be an issue.

3.Good storytelling comes from not dronig on, you can tell one story for ages, if your good at telling stories.

Thier was a rule of thumb, for a good speech, a reaction from the audience every two minutes is required, for a good story every 30 seconds.


4. Again no need for the neg, "hey it's fin, how are you?"... ....that's really all you need...

Why are you so obsessed with negging during everything you do.

I'm frightened your going to end up fucking some poor girl, then false disqualifying and negging half way through in order to ensure she doesn't think you are hitting on her.

Fake Edit: Krystall Nacht, the more I see you post, the more I feel like I love you.

Why are you classifying things into AFC subgroups?

Honestly it sounds like some gay emo shit. Why are you whining about irrelevant aspects to pick up?

I don't even know why you would wear more than 1 or 2 rings/bracelets to begin with. Takes the value out of even wearing anything peacock worthy.

And immediate kino isn't an issue at all. Sounds like more jibber-ish.
IMO It's probably more effective to kino without opening/negging.

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