I figure i stick it in the newbie forum.

Basically, i met her briefly at an after party on its final legs. Got a massage and her number but i have the feeling this was more her doing than mine. Anyway i figured id try some of this stuff ive been reading!

Here goes

I discussed the message with a close female friend (player) who says im just looking too needy! If thats how it appears then im not surprised because i am!!!

I was pretty intoxicated at this point:

Me: Honestly. Ive never experienced anything like that in my life. Come by and join us in the hot tub. Ill make it worth your while.

HB(Morning After): Your too funny

Me(Still drunk in the morning): This is a ridiculous time to be awake at! Where are you, i need to
Me(Again! yes i was planning on re writing it sober but accidently sent the first bit so i added): Not press send prematurely! ops

Ook so i looked back at this and thought it looked terribly AFC and thought maybe id have another go the next day.

Me: Hey i want to feel that good again.
HB: Im sorry. Who is this.
Me: Think about it.
HB: Daddy is that you?
ME: Yeah its me. Have you been a good girl?
HB: Funny. No seriously give me a hint?
ME: You gave me the best massage ever at afterparty location. Just wondering how your doing?
HB: Oh hey. When do you want another massage? When do you leave? (she knows im leaving sometime soon)
Me: Leaving on sat (ftc really sun), would love to get another before i leave, it really was the best!
HB: Sure. Tomorrow?
Me: Awesome, keep in touch. X
HB: Call you tomorrow after work.

Here im thinking, why respond unless she wants to keep things moving.

Me: Or you could come over now. Id need to tidy up a bit tho!
HB: No not coming over.
Me: Wow. Didnt realise how late is was. See ya tommorow, cant wait!
HB: Little party animal.

This is the point where i guess i fail

Me: I wish! No, it really is getting late, you should get some sleep before work.

She never got back to me even after trying to restart things the next day

My thought is that i could have said "you wish" instead of "i wish".

Sorry if this is in the wrong place ect but it helps me to write and maybe someone has some useful input!! Thanks

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I'm presuming that she was attracted to you at the after party because of your energy there; especially when it was dying down like you said. How did this interaction go? Was it flirting, did you run game? Was it just fluff talk?

Your messages seemed a bit incongruous, they went from being ridiculously AFC to being flirty, and back again. This might have made her lose interest, but also the fact that your energy level seemed to die down, and you seemed a bit desperate to get that massage (:
You're rewarding her with IOI's for no reason, and as a result, reinforcing the AFC stereotype, and making her lose interest, remember - GIRLS LIKE A CHALLENGE. You repeatedly do this throughout the interaction, commenting on how well she gave a massage and also your keep in touch. I wouldn't have followed it up with an X, i never use them as a rule, and when an exception to the rule comes up - it's only when she's initiated it.
It's always best to let the conversation die down on your half, if you're too willing to message or spend time or contact her, then she'll be less willing to reciprocate the action. When girls are attracted, most of the time they will reply to the messages that close the conversation (have no point but to say bye).

After that point, you made her the prize when you are supposed to be the prize, and said you were willing to do things for her. In the space of 5 messages, you said you'd stay up, you'd tidy up, and that you weren't a party animal. A rule that i use is for at least one in 3 have to have some sexual connotation (if appropriate), and never acknowledge that she has power, or i want to spend time with her

1-vt21175.html?postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 I suggest having a read through that, and using a few of them - you'll notice the mentality of the messages is teasing her (for most of them) and just having fun, whereas you removed the fun & energy aspect from your messages, which generated disinterest.

Hello there,

First things first, text game, as well as instant messaging or fbook game, is difficult. Because its difficult to tell if the person is being serious or sarcastic, sometimes comments get taken the wrong way.

It seemed that things were going well throughout the beginning of your texting. it was flirty and she seemed to be excited once she found out who you were and eagerly agreed to give you another massage.

However, once the date was set, you probably shouldve backed off. The subject was pretty much done at that point, and you persisting on the subject made you seem perhaps a little needy.

Perhaps nex time, once you have a meeting date, either continue with a different conversation, or dont continue the texting at all. You dont want to send a wrong impression. You need to appear like it wouldnt be a hge deal if she came or not, so as to not display neediness. Girls will shunn away from that.

Hope this helps,

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to be honest i didnt read anytihg you wrote... im not trying to be ignorant on purpose.... but form expereince i can tell you this... the text game..... dont do it, or try to avoid it....talk to her on the phone but id say texting is bad way to communicate...it doesnt show confidence at all