Just something to think about...

"One thing that separates those who score from those who don't is that the guys who score don't personalize failure and they keep trying. Guys who don't score give up too easy. For example, if you join Adult Friendfinder and you message 5 women and get no response, that's typical. You might have to message 100 women before you start getting into a conversation. And then maybe only 1 in 20 will have sex with you, and that's if you don't blow it. If this sounds expensive tome and effort wise - that's because it is. It's far more expensive to get free sex than it is to just go out and find a hooker and pay for it, And - it's something to consider because after all - if you're just trying to get laid - a hooker is a sure thing. And - many women who are in that business are incredible in bed - love the sex - and looking for a good lover to enjoy their job with. That's all covered in my Men's Guide to Escort Services. But if you want it for free - you have to be persistent. "

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I only have a finite amount of time. Wouldn't it be better spent studying to get into medical school?

Whats wrong with hookers? We're socially conditioned to think its bad, but really whats the difference between pulling a girl from a bar and paying for sex?

IMHO, I'd rather be an MD and have to pay to play than a having a lesser job but being able to pickup. The doctor contributes more to society.

Just a thought, not meant to offend, just want to hear some opinions

Thanks.

You bring up some good points... if you are looking for sex and only sex, and dont mind dropping as little as 100 for a quicky with a girl off the street, on up to a couple K for a full night with a girl who could probably be a model... then perhaps it would be a fine way... however you left out all the downsides.

Now my background on this primarily comes from a friend of mine, who I also lived with for a few months awhile back... he is rich, powerful, successful and ridiculously sexually compulsive... and for lack of a better term addicted to whores, not in the derogatory sense of the word whores as in prostitutes.

Downsides:

Most of them have something... yes even the classy ones, and condoms though highly effective are not a sure thing.

They will steal from you, from 10k stacks of cash, to rolexes, to firearms.

Speaking of firearms, any of you guys ever been shook down at gun point by some girl spun out pimp? I've been there for it before and its not fun.

Oh and they wont shake you down just for not paying and/or tipping properly (yes your expected to tip above and beyond the initial price often times), but if your a very good customer and appear to have alot of cash they might shake you down when they get desperate... or

Kidnapping ever been kidnapped and held for randsom in some basement? I know people who have... or even worse then that,

When the Mob and I generalize that to any ethnic version of it, decides to intervene... maybe you did the wrong girl, didnt even know but it turns out you werent supposed to... maybe you stepped out of line a bit and the girl complains, maybe they think you have alot of cash and decide to check into your accounts and the accounts of your close relatives... and decide its enough to kidnap you not like a pimp would... but the 'proper way'.

Drugs the vast quatities of illegal drugs... oh and if you dont do drugs... dont worry you will, I have no idea how many times I've talked my friend through crazy trips he was having from having something slipped in his drink etc.

Oh yeah... plus in many places its illegal.

Just my experiences over meeting and being around for a several 100 hookers or the course of a couple years

thats wht you have to do your own kidnapping, drugging, and after your done with them dispose of them, joking

anyway i knew a friend of a coworker who spent around 12k in about 3 months on hookers, He got dependant on the fact PUSSY costs money and THAT MONEY is the way to get it. So he screwed himself, it would be cheaper to buy girls drinks and see who sleeps with you. Pussy is gotdamn free cuz millions of people are fucking ang making babies and accidental babies (whoops, no one is an accident)

So no my friend, PUA is better, for your life and for yourself, and for the long term

okay ya...hookers are illegal and supposedly expensive
and as good pickup artists, we shouldnt be buying girls drinks
thats for AFCs
its so much cheaper to meet a girl at starbucks or the library or club, and just talking and running game and all that jazz
way better than getting robbed and kidnapped and given diseases by hookers
but if you have a lot of money and are too lazy to learn game and just want to have sex then be my guest and have hookers
but if you want to be with some of the most beautiful women you see then i suggest learning game

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I would suspect that in America the typical single 25 year old female has a better chance of having a STD than a high class hooker. Sad, but very true.

well thank goodness the legal age is 18 ;] haha only kidding

but thats why you gotta get that comfort going so she feels like she knows you enough to warn you
or just take a wiff when shes naked and if anything smells, RUN! lol kidding again, kind of

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They are not illegal in some areas of Nevada. And escorting is "technically" not illegal. Also there are quite few cheap hookers around. You just need to know where to go. And no I never been with a hooker. I work with ex cops and I have heard a couple of stories about their run ins with hookers.





If this was assuming the girl hit the bar/club and/or party on a fairly regular basis then I agree with ya.

Ok after hearing out what you guys just said i have a question... I'm interested in having a LTR with a sweet and intelligent chick and not just casual sex with chiks...but the problem is that im a virgin and haven't even kissed a girl yet(i turned 20 just recently).

I'm considered a pretty cool guy and i have many friends and you could say that i have average social skills but what keeps me from improving my dating skills is my "fear of women" not that i dont have any female friends or anything i just keep telling myself that a girl might reject me if she finds out that i've never been in a real relationship before and also that im completely inexperienced e.g this one time i was dating this girl and i was actually kind of afraid even to hold her hand...So anyways if i get some sexual experience with hookers will that help me get rid of my fear of women??? I mean i still wanna improve my social and dating skills cos they're gonna help me in the long term and in life in general but is that a good idea?

Ok...Here is my 2 cents...

One: Yes, that is a quick fix for getting sex, If that's what you want, then have at it but beware the consequences...Jail, theft, aids...Etc.

Now, it has crossed my mind to get laid in that fashion but what Im really doing this for is for me...

I want to be able to find that girl and when she comes along, I want to be ready.

We are all looking for shortcuts so this depends soley on you, what do want out of this lifetime, a quick fix or someone you can share something special with. That's what I want and I know that person is out there, but If I can't approach her, then I will not get her. Thats the bottom line.

All you need is money for a hooker, just be cautious and please be careful. My friend tried to pick up these two chicks and was maced with his pants down, car was stolen and he was embarrased as hell when he had to call me to help him...We are very good friends and I have never given him shit for that...I felt bad for him though. He had to lie to his girl that he was mugged at the corner and they still broke up. I don't think it's worth it, that's just my thought though.

This whole conversation is giving me a seriously bad taste in my mouth. The moderators may hate me for posting this but it must be said.

This is what I tell all my students at the very beginning of class:
IF YOU ARE HERE JUST TO GET LAID, LET ME KNOW NOW AND I WILL REFUND YOUR MONEY IN FULL AND POINT YOU TO THE NEAREST WHOREHOUSE.

Pick up is totally not about getting laid. It's about becoming a more social and confident man (or woman for you women PUA's-I've taught a few.) Me personally I live in Germany and it is much more cost-efficient to just pay a prostitute to help you get your rocks off and go home and go to sleep. Saves you time and money (The going rate for a solid blowjob is 30 Euros). 4-7 hours as opposed to 4-7 minutes of telling her exactly what you want.

Not to mention that women have a little bit more to offer than a wet vagina...just saying.

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Good points you have. Self-improvement, yes.

In Edinburgh they have what are called Saunas.

its like a brothel but seems to be legit because the goverment gave them all Entertainment lisences and turns a blind eye to what goes on.

Your talking £50 for half a hour.

if its a simple as losing your virginity to get confidence or i dont know bust a nut because your gagging for it i see the point. over here it isnt as bad as what you guys have got in the US. Ive never heard of anoyone gettign robbed off a Escort. its much more of a business in Europe. I mean look at Amsterdamn. Id feel perfectly safe walking down the red light district and going into a whorehouse..

The pros are its easy quite cheap.
The cons are you wont remember the chicks face 2 weeks later as you only spent 30 mins with her 25 of those behind her or with her head in your crotch....

haha.

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PUA is about improving yourself? Tell me, how does getting a female improve who you are? I could send all of you to Eastern Europe where you could get girls you only see in magazines. Would that improve who you are? I don't think so. The term PUA is about one thing. We all know what that is.

aha...getting a female isnt the end all though. Yea it's usually the point at first but that's the first step to becoming a better person. Think about why you couldn't get women in the first place...confidence issues right? Once you leap that confidence obstacle you're well on your way to PUA Enlightenment.

if you still believe that it's only about getting girls you must be a hit or miss wannabe that masturbates and cries himself to sleep.

I'm not saying that being a PUA isn't about geting the pussy...because it is, but if you truly grow some innergame maybe you'll see what I'm talking about.

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OK besides the obvious negatives to hiring a hooker which have been discussed extensively on this thread. There is nothing satisfying about getting a hooker... OK well obviously there is something satisfying otherwise you wouldn't pay them, but thats not what i'm talking about.

I'm talking about the sort of satisfaction you gain when you properly seduce a women. The adrenaline rush when you first approach, the high after you close, and the bragging rights you get with friends about your recent conquest.

Try bragging about a hooker you bought it's not nearly the same and you usually get a bunch of dirty looks from friends

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