sometimes i feel like im talking too much. other times when i cut down a little, convos seem to die down and i wonder if i should have said more.

when im gaming a girl, should i be leading a convo like 80-20 or should it be pretty even like 50-50

The way I understand it, it's okay to slow down to see if the girl(s) are willing to invest in the conversation, but if they're not, you have to fill in the silence.

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Some vices miss what is right because they are deficient, others because they are excessive, in feelings or in actions, while virtue finds and chooses the mean.
Aristotle, Ethica Nichomachea

Well put, ZEGlass. I was always afraid of that awkward silence when I was hanging out with girls. I reacted by trying to steer the conversation somewhere, anywhere.

Now I find that with the girls you really connect with, there won't be awkward silences. When you stop talking, they'll iniate conversation, if you let them. The dull ones will have nothing to say.

It takes 2 to tango. The girl you're with may not be actively participating in the conversation, but keep in mind, they have all the same fears as we do. They work game just like we do. They don't want to come off as boring or stupid. Don't be afraid to talk or listen.