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How old are you
0-17  14%  [ 13 ]
18-20  44%  [ 42 ]
21-25  29%  [ 28 ]
26-30  9%  [ 9 ]
31-40  1%  [ 1 ]
41+  2%  [ 2 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:17 am 
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I think that part of the problem is that while the younger crowd may have a tighter grasp of the pickup material, the context of an older person's circumstances is probably going to be less familiar. Being 27, working a full-time, salaried job, and having an apartment to care for probably means that I have responsibilities and priorities that a 17-year-old may not have personally dealt with. Perhaps it is confirmation bias, but I observe that younger PUAs seem able to invest a lot more time into practicing than I am.

This should not be shocking. Pickup is rife with stories of people who have failed their classes, lost their jobs, or stopped participating in all of their other hobbies. I refuse to let that be me. Mystery certainly doesn't help. He talks about pickup like you should be practicing it (night-game in particular) 4 nights a week. I suspect that might even be feasible for a younger PUA. I find that I am able to practice day-game twice a week.

I see a lot of threads that talk about incorporating Game into other pursuits. "How do I game at school?" "How do I game at work?" "How do I game at the gym?" Is there a broad guideline that exists for using pickup when you are doing something else? (and not just something else that gives you a pretense to be there; something else that involves actually getting other things done)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:01 pm 
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I think that part of the problem is that while the younger crowd may have a tighter grasp of the pickup material, the context of an older person's circumstances is probably going to be less familiar. Being 27, working a full-time, salaried job, and having an apartment to care for probably means that I have responsibilities and priorities that a 17-year-old may not have personally dealt with. Perhaps it is confirmation bias, but I observe that younger PUAs seem able to invest a lot more time into practicing than I am.

This should not be shocking. Pickup is rife with stories of people who have failed their classes, lost their jobs, or stopped participating in all of their other hobbies. I refuse to let that be me. Mystery certainly doesn't help. He talks about pickup like you should be practicing it (night-game in particular) 4 nights a week. I suspect that might even be feasible for a younger PUA. I find that I am able to practice day-game twice a week.

I see a lot of threads that talk about incorporating Game into other pursuits. "How do I game at school?" "How do I game at work?" "How do I game at the gym?" Is there a broad guideline that exists for using pickup when you are doing something else? (and not just something else that gives you a pretense to be there; something else that involves actually getting other things done)
This is a fantastic point, but to be frank there is endless opportunities to game. Do you walk in the street? Do you go to coffee shops? Do you go to shops?
I personally disagree with the "Go out to sarge" idea, its not very healthy or attractive to go out ONLY to pick up women.
Go about your day and if you see a women along your way talk to them :) If you dont have time to do that I would personally re-evaluate my work/play balance :wink:

I can understand that many younger people wont have experience working 9-5 in a actual job but to the same extent the same principles are still at play. This is why all these "sarge at work" "sarge at school" type threads offer little use because of what the people who make them are looking for.
Effectively the people who make such threads want to know how to apply their knowledge of PU, unfortunatly there is a near infinite amount of possibility's on how to meet women. No one person no matter their age can tell any other person how to apply PU to ever situation since no one person has experienced even a fraction of all possibility's.
Therefore, rather than complaining that someone advice doesn't apply because of their age people are simply complaining they have to adapt the principles to their own situation. "Give a man a fish he'll eat for a day, teach a man to fish he'll eat for life" is a perfect analogy here.
The other thing that concerns me with this "under 18's advice cant be taken seriously" is that will the things I say suddenly become more credible in 5months when I turn 18? When you look at it that way can you seriously argue your hypothesis that age is directly proportional to PU knowledge is sound? I will agree there is corrolation between the two factors but as with most things there are exceptions, and because of these exceptions making blanket statements like "under 18's advice cant be taken seriously" seems rather narrow minded.

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p.s. This isn't intended as a direct flame at ZEGlass or anyone else in this thread :)


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:19 pm 
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Hey Dre,

We have 62462 registered users.

I think the vast majority is between the age of 17 - 23. There is no wonder since internet is used more by that same age range. Everyday social pressure is bigger in schools and high schools and being "popular" or just accepted has become a more important part of every young guy out there and being successful with women represents a bigger chance of being accepted and successful in a new demanding society.

Advices in an online forum will remain the same, given from a 16 years old kid or a 26 keyboard jockey. Even if you get an advice from a 40 years old man it doesn't mean it will be right or wrong... advices are given based in what every person has experienced and believe it or not there are 18 years old guys that have more experienced than some guys reaching thirty years old and they still virgins.

In conclusion I think the advices you receive here and in every other place should be taken as advices, not as rules or guidelines, more as hints of what another person thinks about your situation based on what they have lived or heard BUT it is YOUR decision to take them or not.

We are not in place to blame someone for giving us an advice, we should be thankful because that 14 years old took his time to write a dumb advice or an excellent advice that can or can't help us, but one thing will happen, either ways the advice will help us... to know and experience what to do or to learn what NOT to do... and next time you can come here and type what you have experienced doing A, B and C.



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 2:58 pm 
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Well, I'm 19 years old.

But dont you forget that Im not american, Im brazilian, theres a huge difference between a 19 years old american guy from a guy with the same age from Latin America. We're in wild dude, and girls gone be wild here too.

Although, I dont live with my parent since last year, another great advantage.

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Well, I'm 19 years old.

But dont you forget that Im not american, Im brazilian, theres a huge difference between a 19 years old american guy from a guy with the same age from Latin America. We're in wild dude, and girls gone be wild here too.

Although, I dont live with my parent since last year, another great advantage.

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valeu cara! um irmão Brasilero!!!

What you just said is totally true, cant wait to come back home this summer

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:48 pm 
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there isnt anything wrong with taking advice from someone younger.... its the adivce that counts not the age.


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