This week I went on spring break with a few of my friends, including one girl that I've been interested in for a while. Somehow things worked out that me and her were stuck together pretty much the entire time, I'm talking 9-10 hours a day. I thought I was getting somewhere with her, she seemed really responsive to kino and we went off together and had some really deep conversations for most of our time, but a few days into the week she started seeming distant. Turns out she only saw me as a friend and didn't realize that I was interested in her, and two of my other female friends had decided to bitch her out for "leading me on," because it wasn't fair to me. So we had a brutally honest talk, then basically we went right back to joking around with each other because we're stuck with each other almost all day, pretty much every day, and we "agreed" that we still wanted to be buddies.

The thing is, I don't really want to just stay friends, and this Thursday I'm leaving for Africa for two weeks, so i was thinking that maybe I could use the break to reset with her. But I'm really not sure if it would work so soon after the incidents of the past week. Any input would be greatly appreciated

Your problem is, you aren't aggressive or direct enough. You only talk and joke. There's things you need to do to show your interest. And being a nice guy is not, one of them. Heres an example, you can be having a friendly conversation with a girl for a long time, even touching, but if you don't make any moves on her, you are friend material. Nobody should have confronted her about "leading you on" it was YOUR job to make the moves. She had no choice, attraction isn't a choice. You can't confront a girl for not liking you. It's subconscious....

Not to be harsh, but you are about to go to Africa, thats some time to live and love life, fucking forget about seduction. Especially if you haven't even made any solid indications that your interested in her.

Here are what I do, and it works. I NEVER end up a friend. I immediately am out of the friends zone from the start. I make direct eye contact, not regular fucking "yea im listening to you" eye contact, NO, I make "I want you" eye contact.
And I do It while we are interacting. And I also smile and tease a bit. I make the i nteraction hot, thats what you gotta do.

And since you got her friends to bitch her out, you just made her see you as a suplicating wimp. And that is one sucky place to be.

i agree with manman here, the main thing is if your interested you shouldnt let yourself get into the ljbf zone in the first place. however if your stuck there, i honestly would say move on and find another girl. other wise your gunna get stuck on her which is just never good. Try working on avoiding the LJBF's zone and then im sure you'll have enough women you've met that you like to get your mind off this girl sexually/relationshiply(lol def not a word) and can be friends with her and possibly use her as a wingwoman if shes up for it!

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This should have read: You don't "kino" so you can go off together to share deep conversations. You don't need any sort of kino to bore her to death.

Sorry if I didn't make it clear in my first post, I did not ask my friends to confront her! I actually told them to stay the fuck out of my business, but they decided to take matters into their own hands. Needless to say, we're not cool right now, but that's another matter.

And yeah, I know I really fucked it up with the "deep conversation"

Two of my buddies got out of the LJBF zone. Both waited ~6-7 months before rekindling attraction and followed through instead of hesitating from Comfort --> Seduction. My game is far from perfect, but I believe that time is helpful if you really want to bounce out of LJBF.

I've always been curious, does anyone have experiences of getting out of the LJBF zone without an instant recovery?

btw I thought I my as well bring up the question in this thread since it's related, hope you don't mind samiam.

Everybody has those "hindsight" moments where you think, "If I kissed her at that moment, it would have been perfect." (But you wuss out and kick yourself later)

Well, draw a time line from that moment until the day you die.

When you're dead, it's obviously too late. When your 45, married with kids, not TOO late but well late enough.

When you're 33, 25?

If you think you F'ed up because you weren't MAN enough, then how long do you want to wait until you make a MAN of yourself?

So yeah, you give her the week to recollect and get rid of those weird girly thoughts like, "Shit, maybe he just doesn't think I'm pretty . . . maybe he doesn't think I'm sexy . . . I better just forget about it . . . "

Then you make a MAN of yourself and get after what you want. Simple. Why wait 2 months, 1 year, 5 years, 40 years? What's the point in waiting?

I haven't thought of it that way before but now it's got me thinking. Thanks for the insight