After a long wait, much pestering from many people who have been in the know about it I am happy to finally post an overview of my new EVE theory. Enjoy.

EVE – Equal Value Enhancement
EVE is a brand new concept created by myself with help from the Living Attractions team. This is the new step in the evolution of DHV’s and looking at value.

The reason for creating EVE – First and formost value is one of the main reasons for all human interaction. Everyone wants to be around high value people and everyone wants to gain value this is fact. Current PUA methods show that displaying higher value though things like stories is a great way to increase attraction towards you; however there are also non-verbal DHVs (body language, social proof etc). It is the latter type of DHVs that create the need for EVE.

The high value women and low value man – Firstly I want to clear up what I mean by value, I don’t mean money or anything like that I am talking perceived value. This means how other people view you and how much they want you. Now imagine you are a low value guy who notices beautiful women in expensive clothes, you will likely think she is out of your league or words to the effect of she is too good for you. Now, without getting into a debate about if people are out of other peoples leagues let’s look at why this feeling occurs.

She has a very high perceived value and you have a low perceived value. For the purpose of this thread I want you to imagine value as skyscrapers floors. The HB in this situation is on the 40th floor and you’re on the 1st, therefore it seems nearly impossible for you and her to get together because you’re so far apart!

Following this theory that if two peoples values are that far apart that the lower will consider the other out of their league, even if the higher gives a show of interest. Women also feel like this when around very high value men.

Even if you approach a women who sees herself as having a much lower value than you she will still question if she is “good” enough for you no matter what you do. This is the first situation EVE comes in.

You need to increase her value while increasing yours. The key is not only doing it between you two but also increasing her value to all around. Generally humans define their reality through the feedback they get from the world; therefore even if you tell her how amazing she is she won’t believe it because only YOU say it. Therefore, you have to raise her value in the world at the same time as you raise your own.

Now there are going to be lots of people who will argue you should always neg a target or whatever, but think of it this way. If you are confident that you are perceived as a higher value in her eyes and she wants you the only thing that will happen when you make her feel good about herself is her associating that good feeling with you! Who wouldn’t be attracted to someone who makes you feel amazing!

But before we all get on the “lets spread love and happiness selflessly” this isn’t all just for her, you gain benefit as well. By making her higher value you actually indirectly increase your own value. You gain massive social proof by being with the highest value women in the place since if she likes you, there is obviously something amazing about you. So why not make everyone around you high value as well? There is no reason not to!

Now, this will not only work for situations where you’re incredibly high value but in any situation. Women, Men, friends... anybody! This is because everyone likes to feel good about themselves and will naturally stay with people who make them feel that way. The thing is, AFC’s also try to make people feel good but they do it by complimenting etc etc. This is effectively lowering your value to raise theirs and while it may work for a while the time where the other person’s value becomes higher than your own will quickly approach. What I suggest with EVE is that rather than giving them value you include them in your own and then you are included in theirs. This is the true key to becoming very high value very quickly. You’re “bouncing” off each other’s value.

By “bouncing” what you are doing is making the other persons value higher and as a result making yours higher as well which in turn increases theirs. As you can see, this is a cycle that very quickly grows.

Because of this bouncing EVE can be used in many situations, I have put a few examples below:
- With your wing when you enter a venue, you both gain value together to accumulate faster.
- With a target to increase attraction for both of you
- At your work with say a sales team
- Etc etc etc


That’s all for now, I only did a short write up of the theory in this post as I may at some time release a full value system with this included with some other Living Attraction stuff. I am however happy to answer any questions you may have.
Madals

I like this a lot. Could you give an example of when you are one on one with a girl and this is appropriate? and also what type of thing you would say?

Well, its a nice idea.

Im pretty sure you know yor going to hit problems using this now - as its such a brand new method. But keep at it, and get the knots straightened.

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Well so far the in-field testing of it has been going great, loads of success. This idea has been in circulation on the inside for about 6months and I purposely didn't post it up until myself and a few others had ironed out most of the kinks. Obviously though, 3-4 people testing this is only a base line and therefore if anybody does give it an attempt I would digg feedback from it about how it went etc.
Madals

can you give an example technique in which we can us EVE, so what sort of things we could do and say just as a guideline, i would like to test this out, i definitely think there is a backbone on this one. Good work so far

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I like to hybrid techniques, inner game and methods with my own natural game.

I will re-read this once I get home from work but this seems more like something which is a byproduct of sarging rather than a technique or method in itself.

But I think that the value thing is often overrated. Just on the basis after a certain point in the game your standards rise and you become better dressed/more attractive (probably at a similar rate). So I think a situation when you are gaming a lower value woman or are of lower value would be rare. This said I am from a uni town, so everyone is of virtually identical value.

Anyways I will check htis out later once I am awake x

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Hey guys...

I seldom disagree with you Jaybot but here I have to. I think that value is the key (along with alot of things)... I was thinking along the very same lines not long ago, like, both of the individuals in the interaction must feel that their value increases in the presence of the other. A woman must feel that her social position is strengthened when she is hanging out with the PUA in question, thats how climbing the social ladder works.

Madals, great thing that you posted this but how do you improve the sarge? I agree with the previous speaker on this, it is not really a new technique, just a realization, an attitude. How would you go about this in practice? In field?

Ezo

Right, first thing I am going to clear up is that its not a plan where you run your whole game by this. Its just a technique to keep in mind.
How I have used it in field :
1) Low value girl (yes, some women who are gorgeous, fun and great to be around can get walked over by their social groups):
- She says something or makes a suggestion, rest of the group shoot her down or ignore her and look to you for advice and you then give her credit for her idea and go with it. This makes her feel good, increases her value and also increases her attraction to you

There are some other ways but aside from giving you line to line of what I said isn't any better than initially how I said to use it.

Right... I see your point. But dont we already do that? That is comfort building. Our world conspiracy. I am sorry if I misunderstand you but I dont see what you are getting at that is not already out there... Not trying to diss you bro, I just think that you are on to something that I want to understand.

Ezo

Generally speaking comfort building is trying to agree with things, connect and get along. There isn't actually an outline of increasing everyone's value as far as I am aware. The main idea of say the M3 model is that in A2, you increase your value and keep the targets low, then in A3 you build hers up just below yours and then you move into comfort. Now what I am suggestion is a) why does it only involve you and your target and not the whole group and social circle and b) why is that the end of it. People will want to be with other people who increase their value, now, the main way in which people gain value from other people at the moment is by either just being with a high value person and stepping into their spot light or by lowering other people's value to make their own appear higher. Obviously this can happen passively as well when the "nice guy" compliments a HB and she doesn't raise his value.

Very rarely have I seen a group of people raise their whole groups value, instead they look to become dominant in their own group and create a closed system of value within their group. While this is fine IF your content with gaming girl's already in your social circle I feel this is cutting yourself short from the rest of the world. This is where my analogy of being an alpha of a "high value group" as opposed to being the alpha of a "low value group".

By increasing the value of those around you, your also increasing your own value. Not only that, but you re-enforce their positive feelings towards you - something that is always good.

I hope that's slightly more clear however please keep asking question since it helps me to explain it in a way people can better understand

Madals

I think that we actually agree with each other... I just think that this is what I have been trying to do for a long time. I hope others have as well otherwise I am sure you opened their eyes. Once you have established that you are not of lower value then you can safely elevate their value by using your own. A genuine feel good person is always welcome. Do it without being a sucker and you are in!

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Hey Madals re-read its actually pretty solid, I skimmed most and missed out parts about the guy being low value and the idea that raising both avoids coming across as a brown noser. But yeah I have started looking at value and it is such a broad thing.

I tried sorting out what qualities a high value guy would have whilst on the train so wll probably do another post like my "what is an alpha" just to get a feel for what everyone else sees and so we can all discuss it without clogging up your theory thread but yar top stuff

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