Alright guys... I am obviously a noob so I have some questions. I have been studying fastseduction and this forum and I like a lot of the openers from both sites, but what do you guys like to do after you open. I personally tend to stick to parties when I meet girls, but I know I am limiting my options and really hurting my chances together (AFC). So what do you do after you open on a random girl in class/sidewalk/ect? Do you close immediately? Do you go into a patter? Do you drag the conversation out and work on mirroring/kino/anchors?

Most of the time I just run a simple story (DHV) that make them laugh or just chill out , then I might make a comment about the clothes or an attitude so I could paly C&F and tease them a little bit.

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I find that using things in the environment to be the best, such as the band in playing, sketchy dudes, asking about the place and getting ther opinion! i find that some openers can be wierd and coming off as hitting on them, I like to fly under there raidar then attack:)

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Mystery talk about that, as the situational openers , they arent the best but might work.

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guys stop screwing up the topics like "i wont share my best stuff FU" ...

Im not v good at opening and i havent opened many sets so far:)

Here's the best opener ive read about

/credit to a cool guy from mystery method forum

pua: hey i have a really important question that i need you to answer
hb: (of course she wud ask "what" cuz she is curious) - What?
pua: what'z your favourite animal
hb: (she will laugh if u say that like you should (think of the way pls)) Pigeon/ lion/ cat / w/e...
pua: NO WAY?? so why did u pick that one out of so many animals
hb: blabalbablaba /interupt her
pua: wait tbh i just wanted to meet you...
hb: (she might ask for your name) o rly? whatz ur name then?

and so on next routine...u may ask her what else she does for fun besides flirting with hot white guys(w/e u are) and tease her

My best opener so far I think is this one (based on succes rate):

XF: Hey guys let me get your opinion real fast ... What do you prefer cat or dog ?

HB: Dog

XF: No way , Dog's sucks (NEG) I'm joking I have 5 ... wait, See the problem is that my little sister/cousin birthday is in one week , she is going to turn 9 years old and I don't knwo what to buy a cat or a dog , she love both cats and dogs, and the other day at the pet shop... blah blah ( DHV story move to A2 )

Or some variations I have made of my own opener are :

What you prefer for a gift a Cd or Dvd ...

Which movie you think is better: How too loose a guy in 10 days or the notebook , the thing here is that my sister...

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PRIMP OPENER (Harmless) First, here is the frame you're using for this opener:
"You're CUTE... but I'm going to make you a ROCKSTAR!"

You don't even need to say anything to open, so this works in the loudest clubs.
You walk up, of course making sure to keep your BL under control. (Shoulders away, etc.) You check her out then make a face like
you aren't happy with what you see. Then you hold your hands out like you're judging her style. You move in SLOWLY, pick some
article of clothing (hat, shirt, etc. Best if it's upper body or head) and PRIMP it. Take her hat and TWIST it ever so slightly. Now, back
away, lean back, look her over, and give her a thumbs up.
"NOW you're a SUPERSTAR!"
Continue with push/ pull if you wish... " But wait..." and twist the hat back the other way. If she touches her hat, bust her for messing it
up.
Tell her she's allowed to be seen with you now, and promenade her around the club.

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XF: Hey Guys help us out ... "Does SPAM have nipples?" ... blah blah

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The Cologne Opener (Style)
Style: "Hey guys, I want your opinion on something. See, I have two different colognes on
my wrists, and I want to see which one you like better."
(Let them smell the cologne. Be cocky and funny, neg the target, etc.)
Style: "The reason is, I have so many colognes from my ex-girlfriends on my shelf, and I
want to give some of them away and keep the best ones."

Variation #1:
After she picks one, you pull out a pen and make a mark on your wrist, next to five or ten
others…

Variation #2:
Her: “So what are they?”
Style: This one is hemlock, this one is chloroform.”

Variation #3:
Style: “Thanks. I have all these old colognes around the house, so I’m having a face off.
This one has won ten days in a row!”

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I'd like to get your opinions on something real quick...do I look like a drug dealer , cuz since I shaved my head (anything work , since I let my hair/beard grow guys come up to me all the time asking me if I have any E...
time whether I party and if I have any coke or whatever... Is that weird? etc.


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And of course: THE CORONA OPENER -> corona-opener-by-xfman-vt2525.html

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I love the Primp Opener so much. I call it "Fabulous" because it makes people think I'm gay (making me seem far more harmless). But yeah. Fabulous is awesome.

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Hey guys,
Don't get too hung up with openers from "The Game". Sure, they are fine if they are working and getting you into conversation.

But if you have the confidence, a simple "Hi" can work wonders. Say that and wait for them to talk. Don't feel you have to keep talking to fill every pregnant pause. The best sales people say something and then shut up and wait for the customer to talk. That is is because they have confidence in the product.

Remember to look at the surroundings and use anything unusual to talk about. There is always something out there in the surroundings, but if you are hung up on well-rehearsed openers, then you will miss it. Eg, if someone on the other side of the bar has knocked over a stool or a drink, say "Hi", then point to it and say "Don't let me get that drunk!" or whatever.

But use the "Hi" line first, to get their attention, and then point out something/ask something etc. If you just start without the "Hi" they will miss the start of your sentence and you will have to ask again. It takes a word or two for them to pick up the thread.

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General has a very good point, I am a strict beleiver in the idea that picking up should be a complete freestyle. Sure use an opener that will attract her intellectually, but a simple "hey, how are you?" gets a response....I use it on the check in girls at my gym everytime there is a new one hired.

Methuselah - "hey, how are you?"
girl- "im pretty good/great/bad"
Methuselah - "good as you can be at work huh?/that says alot about a person if they are in a good mood at work, shows that they are content with life (blah blah)/ well work can do that to ya, when do you retire?"

the point is, when the girl responds (which any normal person will when spoken to) just be ready to quickly formulate something interesting and intruiging to say. ditch the script and just go with the flow, it may seem intimidating at first but it works better in the long run, plus when you can do it properly, your confident speaking should mirror your body language, by which giving you all the tools you need to stick out from the average shy guy.

--Methuselah

i love that primp opener its diffrent from anthing ive read so far (which isnt much).

i like to use

1. ESP opener
2. Fluro shirt
3. "would you date a guy who was still in contact with his ex?" (follow up with DHV)

Great day game opener, stop a girl on the street and say:

"Oh..my..god..where did you get that shirt? My little sister has been begging me for-EVER to get her the exact same one! I swear if you've taken the last one we are gonna have some problems" and flash a big smile.

From there run C vs U or something. This has been field tested.


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Just wondering how you go on after sticking out the middle finger at them, so they wont gonna think of you as a butt and backslap you

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My ALL TIME FAVORITE OPENER:
1. Hi! (aka The Universal Opener)

It's fucking AMAZING! It's like a magic word that makes panties MELT...I swear.

Think about it...it's so simple and so awesome!

2. Hello
3. How ya doin?
4. Have I met you yet?
5. Who are you?
6. Kino (poke her or something)
7. If you had any superpower, what would it be?
8. Spontaneous (or situational) Openers
9. OMG Openers
10. Is Kissing Cheating? Opener

Christ! What an old thread!

Here are some my favorite openers, perhaps not the BEST, but definitely never fail to amuse me and open the set in a fun/different way. I use most of these on a regular basis. No particular order to the list:

1. Casanova Crew's lovely opener: "You! I have one thing to say to you . . ."

2. My patented(haha jk) Scarf "Does this make me look gay?" Opener. This is probably my most favoritest. It has never failed to insta-hook, and get me insta-kino from the chicks. AWESOME. I'll share it sometime in the future, but if you're smart you'll get it. I always try to follow this up with some of Mantis' push/pull with the scarf.

3. Any "OMG!" opener.

4. "Whoa! What are you all celebrating over here?!" Usually follow up #3 with this, but open with it as well.

5. You girls are just too fucking cute, I had to come over here and talk with you!

6. Any Situational Opener, I love these especially if I notice something strange the chick is wearing.

7. "You look bored!" or "You look lost! What's with that?" (Obviously said playfully, rather than accusing.) You can combine this one with my #5 above, I usually do this.

8. (To Girl texting on cell phone) "So you're like the 'come to the club and spend all night on my cell' Girl, huh?" (again playful, not accusing.)

9. "You girls look like you're plotting something over here! I bet you're total troublemakers!" ...or... "Wow, you girls look like you're having a super secret conference over here! What did I miss?" actually just tried the latter for the first time last week, they loved it.

10. Apocalypse Opener. I've used it only one time so far, but it went great as far as how well it fucking hooked them (even though they refused a threesome...duh! haha). I'm planning on using it a few times before I leave the club tonight though, should prove to be a fun as hell night.

Coming in for a wing I've been using this lately: "OMG! Are you girls hitting on my boyyyfriend?!" All said while smiling and putting my arms around wing. Using my most flamboyantly gay accent ever. It's hilarious, always gets everyone laughing, and they rarely ask about you or the wing being gay. I love it.

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