My behavior changed, in a bad way?!



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:33 pm 
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Okay, before I found this forum and stuff and especially ALPHA-MALE thing, I was a gentleman and a bit too nice:

If girl dropped something, I picked it up for her. If she talked to me I was always pleased to talk with her, no time restrictions, but I still tried to be cool and make fun of her a bit. You get the idea, dont ya. AFC.

Now backwards, to little part of my life, to part which Im thinking right now. Did something go wrong?

I started reading about ALPHA-MALE BEHAVIOR. You know, dont be a wussy... Lemme explain my something about my behavior right now.

-Girl says: "Can you give my pack", I say "No, Im not your servant unless you pay for it"
-Sometimes I have days I try to get rid off my one itis (having it to one girl on my class, all these situations relating to her), if this girl talks to me, Im acting like Im busy, answering short. She thinks Im having a bad day.
-Im no more natural at all! All I say is thought before. I sound like a machine.

When first started using these techniques to this girl (I was in LJBF-zone), taking the conversations more sexual, making tension. I thought I got out from LFBF-zone.

Now I have made some BIG MISTAKES IN MY OPINION. I have told her "We should meet _____" or w/e. ALWAYS ME OR HER HAVE HAD SOMETHING ELSE TO DO, just like we were shy kids.

I tried to freeze up: I found out that there is no such thing as attraction between us. She is not hanging around me like a puppy.

She is a famous girl, can this be that she is a player that knows these things or am I just fucked up?

And some help to get rid off my ONE ITIS!

I sit next to her in couple classes (small college). Sometimes I go party, I forget about her. Next week at school, she sits next to me. It gets back.

TO EVERYONE, DONT TRY TO GET OUT FRIENDS ZONE, IT IS ALL HELL!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:51 pm 
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You can't climb out of the pit that is the friend zone until she sees you in a whole different light. It seems like you're going about being alpha the wrong way. When she asks you to carry her bag she's shit-testing you. If you carry the bag, you fail. If you make an obviously resentful comment like the one you used, you also fail. Take the middle ground next time by joking with her. Flex your arms and tell her, "This shit isn't free." Or tell her she's looking kind of puny and could use the exercise.

Work on yourself- work out, buy some new clothes, take up a cool hobby, etc.

Next, chat up the people around you in your classes. When you're laughing and having a great time, then include her in the conversation. Stop trying to make dates with her, and go date some other girls. (GFTOW). Better yet, take her out with you as a pivot. Since you're just friends, buy each other rounds of drinks. Or, when you are already on your way to do something with your guy friends, invite her along. Continue to hit on other girls, and treat her like a fun little sister.

The point of all this is that you aren't "acting" alpha- be friendly, be funny, be a good guy, but become alpha from the inside out. This will be a long process. If you do things right, either you'll meet so many other girls that you'll lose your one-itis, or she'll start being attracted to you. Don't chase her- just work on yourself and let her think it was all her idea.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:36 am 
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Why oh why do everyone try to learn this just to seduce that one girl they had a crush on since forever... Thats the ones that we have least success with.

There is a difference between being a loser and a gentleman. A gentleman is a man who is gentle because he can afford to be. Thats the thing. In the old days men had the power and a man who did something for someone else even though he did not have to was a gentleman. Nowadays it is the same, really. You need to know that you do not have to do everything that she says, but you do not have to be rude since that shows that you have issues, trying to compensate for something.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:20 am 
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I have been thinking about being a man a lot recently and what alpha is. As far as I am concerned it is not about being an asshole and can be summed up as being a great guy.

Great guys are interesting, kind, leaders, confident, sincere etc.

I think most people see only the bad traits of alpha males as we pick the wrong examples, like the jock guys who seem alpha but that is only really their body language (outer alpha). Whereas true alphas are both outwardly and inwardly alpha, they don't try to show they are alpha, they don't need to.

Whilst I realize this wreaks of tangent, in reference to your original problem you don't need to be standoffish or impolite they are probably more un-alpha than most things.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:04 pm 
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Exactly right Jaybot!

The average dog challenges all other dogs to obtain a higher position. The true alpha top dog does not need to challenge anyone.


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Another thing people don't understad is that as a gentleman you will end up doing things like that anyway. I open doors for women and I'll carry a heavy bag, not because i'm weak but because i'm chivalrous, and honestly it usually throws them for a loop. I call females ladies, if a female knows me and sees me she's required to kiss my cheeks, and when leaving a woman sometimes I'll kiss the back of her hand. That shit is charming and different. Not saying i bend over backwards but I do stuff like that because I feel like doing it. don't let "this thing of ours" turn you into something you don't wanna be.

The first and foremost rule of being a PUA is to have fun. If you're not having fun then you're seriously doing something wrong.

Some advice I give all my students. The main key is to dive into this PUA thing internalize as much as possible then step back out of it and incorporate what you want of it into yourself. That's one main way to tell the difference, I don't go clubbing or shopping or out to get coffee to look for women aymore. I have 5 LTR's I don't have time to be picking up too many new women and establishing things with them. I go out to have fun and out of nowhere pickup happens.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:01 pm 
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READ THE FOLLOWING ARTICLES:

On changing bad attitude:
http://www.pickupgurus.net/wiki/index.p ... d_Attitude

Your Expectation List:
http://www.pickupgurus.net/wiki/index.p ... ation_List

Overcoming Jealousy:
http://www.pickupgurus.net/wiki/index.p ... ation_List

Your Alpha Male Perception Problem:
http://www.pickupgurus.net/wiki/index.p ... Alpha_Male

This Isn't Just About Sex

http://www.pickupgurus.net/wiki/index.p ... ng_For_Sex

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:09 pm 
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Thank you so much for your posts!


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