There's this new staff at my apartment complex which is cute. Nice tits, and nice ass. LeeLee, i call her. Dan pisses me off because he's using his AFC behaviors and I think it's making her like him.

Dude, they don't wanna say they like each other but I know. She played with her hair last night, and licked her lips when talking to him about some jazz. Mimic body language.

I love busting her chops she doesn't like horror movies and I call her a wuss. She laughs and has fun with it. Last night when she went to go she told me to have Sweet Dreams and she'll see my ass tomorrow. At first I thought it was I'll see you as tomorrow. Don't know.

Also, while we talk it's strong contact - I thought there she said, "You make me laugh which is good!" I'm not sure. I'm not hard of hearing but it could be just my thoughts of misinterpreting.

I noticed what Dan says, "Well, I'm out of the picture!" after I mentioned that it's said that women want the tall, dark hair and tan men. It's the "Pity Me" AFC Behavior which I think maybe he thinks that works. Last night I thought he brushed his hand on her ass after she proof read his homework. When she got up and they switched places, that's what I thought he sneakly rubbed his hand on her ass. She asked if he needed her to proof read again? He said No, and looked down and blushed.

It kinda pisses me off that he got this chick liking him and even though I wanna fuck her brains out but can't. He could. He's doing it with AFC behavior. He buys her soft drinks, opens the door for her, overly nice and polite.

I caught him though on his strategy though, "Dude, see what you do? You beat yourself up so the girls feel sorry for ya!" He chucked and had a big grin on his face.

Also, I notice he'll slip seeds inside like little hints of what he wants to do but not say it.

There's something there and I can't really put my finger on it. She has a boyfriend that lives in Tenn. Memphis and she's in Ill. So, I talked her about it and she said, "It's hard but I pull through." My ass you do. She's gonna break up with him this weekend. I got some hunch on that. Since Dan and LeeLee work at the same site - if they did have any relationship, she would have to move to another site within the organization, cause friction will turn up against them, bickering and all that.

A couple of things In noticed is that they have a deal with each other, "I'll buy you a soda drink at Sonics and you buy me one."

I bought a GPS tracker data logger to put in the car, lock pick set to get into restricted areas of the apartment complex, lock snap gun, UV flash light to detect any greenish yellow stains Those little assholes gonna get caught by Stealthy.

LOL!

It just pisses me off that his AFC behavior is getting this chick. What the fuck?

Let me know what you think!

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hilarious these two statements follow each other, also on a more logical level what the fuck? I mean really GPS trackers and shit. You planning on stalking her into bed or something, get a grip dude.

Now that fucktardery is dealt with lets get to the heart of the issue, from what I could figure out you like a girl your friend is hanging out with her and yet doesn't seem to be closing, he has probably already secured himself a spot in the LJBF zone if not it is probably even better. He can keep her busy you play the bad boy act and reap the rewards.

But in all seriousness you scare me quite a lot and should probably sort yourself before involving other people.

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Well, there's a major mistrust in Dan. However, these are apparently just thoughts. I think that I'm beating hands down to a AFC and it get's to me. I've read, I've gained some experience and this little weasel is taking my trophy with some sneaky comments or hints.

Maybe she doesn't like him but maybe he does. He says he doesn't believe in taking boyfriends away. For me being single I know that even though a person may have thoughs beliefs - I'll still bone this chick. ALso, he says he's fine with being friends with a girl than a relationship. Which I think is bullshit because no guy that is single is just "fine" with being friends with a cute girl. Plus, this one day she was talking to me about her boyfriend that going to Tenn. Memphis this weekend (probably to break up with him) when we pulled up of Delta Sonic he said to her, "Sorry to break you guys up but.." i couldn't hear what he said but yeah, this guy is a sneaky little bastard.

I know that these thoughts are just my head thinking crazy thoughts - but I know something there tut they deny it.

He swears and says he gets uncomfortable when i say they're fucking. Plus, when I was telling her about the Dark and handsome men and he interjected saying that to cut him out of the picture. She chimed in saying, "Look at my skin - I'm casper the fricken ghost!" Isn't that qualifying him?

So, I don't know if she's actually putting him in LJBF but it doesn't seem like it. The thoughts that go one my head is that I'm being beating down by a AFC and it gets to me. You know?

I mean, maybe she likes chatting with me - sometimes about sexual topics, I bust her out on alot of things - I'm more bold than Dan is. Dan's more reserved and conservative and I'm being beaten hands down. What The Monkey Hell?

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I disagree with Jaybot on this one. This is not just another situation you can slip into a category of “AFC is getting into LJBF zone, PUA take advantage.” Clearly from what Stealth is saying, that would be a very black and white statement.

I have two thoughts. The first is that BECAUSE you are apparently being outgamed by an AFC and it bothers you, it probably affects your game, be it on a subconscious, subcommunicated/non-verbal level or a more overt level – especially when the three of you are together. The girl may pick up on this and therefore see your friend as higher value.

The second, more important thought, is this; individual differences. Not everyone is the same. Sure, our techniques work effectively on maybe 90% of girls, but there’s always a few that are completely different. Everyone is turned on by different things. Some girls will just be puddling for a ‘geek’. An NLP principle comes to mind: If what you’re doing at the moment isn’t working, DO SOMETHING ELSE. A big part of sarging is not just spewing out what you know, but also adapting to the situation and the HB at hand. Adapting to hit HER chords, not just the chords that are likely to chime with most girls. Perhaps the buttons you need to push for her are different.

Anyway, here is what I would do. First, examine yourself to make sure no negativity (e.g. jealousy) is showing through your game, especially non-verbally. Next, see if you can get into situations where the three of you are together. Then use light amogging techniques to show you are higher value. Be very polite to him, but make sure you are always seen to have higher value, and have him do things for you; make him seem inferior. Furthermore, an important tactic is not to address the girl and try and keep the attention of the girl when the three of you are together. Instead, add value to the guy first and freeze out the girl. Make sure you are leading the conversation. Then the girl will eventually start trying to get your attention because you are the leader of the conversation and she is being left out. Bang, you’re in. If you instead focus on her, then the ball is in her court and she could just freeze you out and focus on your friend – not good. Furthermore it makes it seem as if you value her very highly because you are ignoring your friend.

Lastly, ADD VALUE TO HER. Always add value. You may be teasing etc, but why does she always go back to him then? What is it that he GIVES to her to make her like him. Not what he has, but what does he give. Perhaps she is looking for someone laid back and calm? Check it out.

It would be a more effective strategy to try all of this first, THEN if it doesn't work go 'badboy' style. Because if you do the latter first it's difficult to just tone down to the former, whereas it's not hard to tone up to 'badboy'.

Hope this helps buddy.

I talked to her today because she worked today alone from Dan. While talking I told her that Dan probably likes ya. She says, "Well, that would be just uncomfortable because we work together and I have a boyfriend. Plus, to help you guys and belp you guys with your goals - we need to work together well and be professional as we can. Being a client - damn, I go bonkers for her tight ass. (Breath Stealth, Breath) The thing is I can't touch her, only tease her, joke around, use light kino like palming each other or giving each other fives, or lightly touch on the shoulder. Anything other than that I can't because I'll get in trouble and I do not want one of those conversations where I sit down and she says, "Paul, we're staff and you're a client there's a big boundary between staff and client." I had that happened once and don't want that again then the restrictions hit fast.

However, I think the problem is that I see them get along well - I subconsiously think they like each other and she doesn't like me. But by talking to her today I got that she's loyal to her boyfriend but has thoughts of maybe he's doing shit with other women but she trusts him. I hate to see her get burned. If there was any possibility of seducing this chick I would have her bent over on the desk.

Also, there's some things I gotta work on too. However, maybe I'm sensing Dan likes her but Dan as he is consertive and whatever - he's not gonna say or do anything with out her permission. He rather bend over backwards to help people and make them happy before he's happy. That's the kinda guy he is.

However, knowing as a guy and experienced some things I do realize her politeness and friendly manner does some times get misinterpreted into She likes me kinda deal. So, I think Dan possible thinks that but as we all know we can't jump to the gun we have to look at the signs and no guess.

Now, I just bought those stuff for a waste of money. I WANT MY MONEY BACK! Well, maybe they'll come in handy later on. Never know - the goverment might need me!

Thanks for the comments but she assured me that he hasn't said anything or done anything out of context of what it is - just co-worker relationship.

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Lmao I didnt know wether to take this seriously or not at first hahaha

Urmm mate.. why dont you just kidnap Dan seeing as you've gone the whole length with your GPS tracker and UV light.

Nah what the world would that do? I was chatting with her last night. This chick is so cute - but she's a staff and I can't fuck her. BOO!! Hate that shit! I would've gone to the Zoo today but didn't feel like it. I probably have fun. Maybe next time. I told my therapist when he asked if I was going to the Zoo with the people from my complex and I was like, "I'll look into it." He's like, "Don't look into it just go!" Dan is the land lord kinda guy or Apartment manager. He's okay but don't know really - he swears he's not a player and all that but his brothers are. Maybe he's what women will consider not boyfriend material just a good friend. He says that he's fine with it. He told me he went up to girls at clubs and asked if he could dance with them.

I understand how that was because at high school it was rough for me only met psycho girls from online.

I don't go on myspace alot to sarge - enough experiences with Whales could give me night mares.

So in other words Dan is not going to fuck LeeLee brains out. I only think that possible I want all women's attention. I think I crave for that like a hungry little baby tiger. When So, possibly dependant on women - not such but it feels good to talk to them.

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ya man just read that whole thread and you seem way to ...something.. not quite sure really what it is but you really need to not be concerned with this girl. you really should jsut let your friend do whatever he is doing because clearly she is if anything interested in him not you- jsut because your learning pick-up doest mean that all of our afc friends shouldnt get any.

dude you were out gamed, I see it in no other way AFC or not he won. Leave it at that.

ALso don't ever make excuses not to hit on women, I have hit on anyone I have found attractive.

Would love to write a lot of advice here but I really need to sleep, the long and short of it is you are not better than your friend, he out gamed you, try harder next time and don't get so involved in one girl there are thousands of women that are hotter/smarter than her I promise.

Stay cool bra (that right I used it god I love dog the bounty hunter)

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did u tell your therapist about the stealth tracker...?

Gotta be honest man, YOU sound like the AFC where as your friend is being just that- a friend.

She feels less threatened by your buddy- her friend- rather than you who are coming across flirty, because she has a boyfriend and is actually unavailable. Your basing her availability off of circumstantial things, and you are CLEARLY over-thinking and over-analyzing the situation.

General AFC behavior to hold one girl in such high esteem, caring and investing so much of your time and sanity for this 1 girl-who may not even reciprocate, leaving you supplicating to her....sounds like the ol One-Itis.

She should be looking for your approval-and this should all be old stuff to you, how long have you been a member of this forum? You honestly are writing like you are on something.

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