My man, black pick-up IS shit tests homie LOL.

These ladies get approached by the WACKIEST dudes alive, EVERY SINGLE DAY... that's why I said no matter how you come across... make sure you come correct.

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Even the way a sister dresses is a shit test!! It's like, "What you gon do now huh?"

LOL!!!!

At the end of the day, I'm not saying that the info on here is wrong, but dealing with black women (who are somewhat dominant then other women), you have to step to them from the position of authority.

I'm not talking about talkin' pimp shit too her (that's a no-no for "square girls"), but you must be dominant. You still can be funny & dominant.

I'm living in San Diego & Los Angeles right now... and to be honest, I've tamed my game down extremely. When I holler at a white girl, asian girl, latin girl, oh I'm palm reading, rings routine, who lies more, jealous girlfriend, all that shit.

But when it's a sista, oh no, I may run the 5 Questions Game, but my frame is mostly that of qualifying & social proofing.

The biggest thing is curving your approach (manly your Opener). A bit.

I've dated girls working at Magic City, Strokers, you name it. I'm not saying you can't try using most of this game, but if you don't approach from a playful (playful as in sexual, NOT GAY) aspect... black women WILL think you are soft. Period. They may not say it to your face, but they may still THINK it (even subconsciously). And this has Nothing to do with you personally. That's what's fucked up about it. It all stems from the high gay population of black men, and the down low niggas (apologize for the "N" word in advance) in the black community. The truth is black women are intimidated by a dominant, secure black man (that’s where all the shit tests come into play, they have to make sure you are not frontin’).

Biggest mistake black guys make is either being TOO forward, or being TOO soft.

They got to know how to play the game.

Alright... this is an example with a "homegirl" of mine. I’m just fucking with her, but I still remain sexual around her at ALL TIMES. NO MATTER what, whether she has a boyfriend, a fuck buddy, who cares. My frame is that of a sexual creature. She called me up to take her to the movies while I was in town in Miami a week ago.

I was filming sideways, so you have to tilt your head it see it (notice how I say I’m not that popular on Facebook anyways & she says “Uh-uh” because in fact, I am! LOL)


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I'm kinda in a rush but briefly... Anyone who plays a stereotype to get some pussy is a lame and a coon in my book. Some if these comments areridiculous I'm black act myself and get with a grip of non black broads. Hot ones. I'll be honest being light doesn't hurt (sad but true) I'll expand later gtg

Did you even read ANY of the previous posts before you posted that ignorance. The thread was about how to curve your game to obtain BLACK WOMEN. Not about being light and getting, as you put, "non-black broads."

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That's funny...you say don't play the race card, "non-black broads", and being 'Light" has it's advantages in the same sentence...really guy.

Anyway I've been intrigued by this topic for a while and I'm planning on writing two somthings (books, pamphlets, something) on the subject. I call it volatile sarging. no offense to the "non-black broads" out there but yea females that you would find at a hip-hop/dance club will be a bit more volatile than at some techno dance hall or something like that. You just have to be direct maintain your confidence, and above all social dynamics. Every female in the club knows that there is a whole gang of AFC's waiting to pounce on them, you'll see sevens acting like they're tens. But that's the key too because most 9's and 10's never get approached because your average AFC will be too scared to approach her.

My main advice is acknowledge her presence, when you do approach let her know that you're a sexual being and that you're considering whether or not she's worth your conversation.

PS - One thing I tell all my students...don't be afraid of her she's only one of the many and you'll never see her again. Also if she rejects you now when you finish working the room and get a few chicks under your wing she'll be begging to hang out with you, then it's your turn to act an ass if you wish.

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I'm fresh to this site, not so much to pu but I've been inactive in dude world for a while (football, beerpong, pretty much doin stuff where I wouldnt be pressured into dealing with chicks - in particular black chicks. )I had to join this site when I read your posts on this topic because it's a real issue. I've about given up on the sistas cus all of their BS stems from inherent insecurity which they overcompensate for. So you can't use the same game on them that you'd use with, say a white or asian girl.

To approach them with an ESP test or something like that would elicit cold "he's corny" stares and grunts. But I like what I'm hearing about the BREAKING rapport thing. It's pretty reliable from what i've seen. I too went to undergrad in Atl (right next to CAU, so i'm familiar with the same women you're familiar with Cocaine) but before that I went to a predominantly white highschool. Overall, I'd say to bag a non-black girl, you have to act like you're making a friend, while to bag a black girl you almost have to act like she's annoying to you and you're getting pissed off at her.

Over this last month, I've found that sistas in the club can be caught by many direct things like: (grabbing, tapping, etc) getting their attention and immediately going into C/F and negging....

You also must calibrate to the sista. If she's dressed sophisticated, then go with standard material. If she's party dressed, strong slang...go strong with above.

At a party or lounge or anywhere besides the club, the standard stuff works. I love the "who lies more" I always get the set moving like that. But the ESP/Palmistry, use with caution on sistas. You'd be better off being really smooth/sexual until you isolate.

Remember, I'm no expert. Just telling you what has worked in March. April might be a different month. First Friday tomorrow.....I'll put it to the test again. Read my post Black PUA march report.

I did the ESP and palm reading on a white girl on Monday and she was all into me like I was David Blaine...too easy....sistas are the big game.

Coach

That's fucked up... but soooooo true!!! LOL

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Bout DAMN time lol i never thought this shit was gonna end so i could post my lil two cents on the subject ( Had to read everything so i wouldnt sound like an ass)

Anyway heres my two cents... I've tried not to put race as an issue ya know but its boils down to it that it kinda is. I'm black yea and ivve seen my share of AFCs gaming girls and i can see why its harder a bit. I remember when i went down to the Hood (not as bad as most people think) and heres how basic game is played

(one dude spots girl) : Hey Girl
(2 friends catch on): Hey Girl, Hey Girl, Hey girl (this goins on to the point where it sounds like dogs barking or she finally answers)
HB: what?
1st dude: Where yo n*** at?
(If she has one he basically gives up, If not they try to build rapport)

Another thing is the classic havent I seen you from somewhere or What u doin and what not. So most "sistas" probably have tuned out much of these AFC openers which is why simply sayin "hi" doesnt work as well as most think it does in our venue, Dont get me wrong its better saying hey than nothing and nothing is wrong with a general hello. Am i saying you should stress over an opener? No I'm not im saying be unique. Funny is good Universal and from my own experience girls admire a dude who is themselves or "real" as we would say. Since most guys try calibrating themselves so much they lose sight of who they are.
Something which is also sad but true.. most of are women have been mistreated.. they have babies by dudes who just dont care, or they have been WIDELY cheated on. So its only natural shit test are gonna come and come hard. A real man is what most of these women will say that they want. So the journey isnt just about getting our women its about unlocking your self not your "best self" or whatever but who you truly are. Then like my friend once told me you can game the women once your congruent with yourrself. But still as everything go treat our girls right, no i mean treat ALL women right no matter better yet give EVERYONE (wtf did he just say) EVERYONE the respect they desreve.
Another things is yea.. ive seen the club game.. its... different. Basically you cant get a bunch of wannabe and real thugs together down here.. and have a decent time with no fighting or shooting. I'll admit game isdifferent.. fun but different i wont go too much into this because i prefer day game.
I'll admit some things arent that accepted in the black community as they should be like the ESP, the color pink, and all this other stuff, Especially the gay routine lol i've seen that fall quick! Only once though only once. But, these girls are gonna be strong no lie. So come Strong.

Nothing else i can think of... lol But this is the perspectice of an observer and a gamer Am i PUA.. not really, Am I a skilled pua...ha! But still fact remains i wouldnt tell you something i have no clue about, As for playing the race card.. yea most of the time we have an insant cool about but i don't drill into this so much, Just watch your self remember your not just a black man your a man a human bein and YOURSELF! no one else is that im done until someone talks back to me.

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Ok, I went out last night and here's how it went. Get into the club and it's really loud and dark. The place is also a cafe and has booths where people sit. Most single dudes in the bar area. People are situated in sets all over but mostly girl groups hanging out, couples or single guys. When the girls move its like a march and hard to stop them for a convo. The girls that were up shadow dancing were hard to open because of the proximity you have to get to talk. You have to lean in and almost talk in there ear(definitely dont want to talk to someones girl in the ear). Opinion openers in this situation is shit with party girls. I opened a single with the "who lies more" but she didnt hook as her friend returned with her man and took there seat back. I went outside to the smoking area, or as I call it "the fish pond" and sat with a friend and waited for the fish to come in. Hooked a 4-set of party girls and was building attraction and negging my target but my friend kept interrupting with his lame ass game. He drove them off and it ruined my flow for the night. After chatting with a buddy I ended the night. I only stayed out for 2 hrs. The club was very packed.

Observations: Opening in a loud club and building attraction there is hard. It's better to work in a place were I can be heard with a loud projecting voice. This is important in the black clubs because women only get to see you and make there decision to continue. If I can be heard I can work my verbal magic on them. I'm no troll but in the club is 6'5 GQ dudes and many others that are more visually pleasing than me. I need to be heard for my edge to kick in. All these pretty boys have game too!! Day game with sistas is the same......I gotta get to a bar and try there. I'll let you know.

Coach

..that pickup would be different for an aspiring PUA like me who is black - i wanted to ask.. but lo and behold, its already been addressed. i tend to like white and latin women these days myslef.. and my experience has been just that as someone mentioned.. either they like em or they wont touch us. Lots of exposure in the media has increased the "like" factor but also increased the stereotypes and misinformation. I'm actually much more comfortable approaching sistas, becuase i've been around them all my life. But since moving to Florida, I dont find many hott sistas with brains (maybe i need to visit ATL).. so I've made the "switch"...hopefully all my reading and prior experience will give me the skills to approach them all!