Well, nothing is ever without exceptions and it can be done but it is gonna be difficult. It is the tradeoff, is it gonna be worth the pain? He obviously cares and have friends around that he wanna keep up appearances in front of. (Good to lose those barriers btw.) Anyhoe, I remember when I was 20, I had a friend (girl) who was into a guy who was 15... But he was really mature and macho etc etc. One of the best naturals I ever saw. Plus she was a slut... (Sorry about that but it was a matter of describing her not an insult, she even described herself that way sometimes...)

Good luck though

DRE do you know how to read ??????????
idiot, first i said I dated a girl who was thinking of getting married next year NOT WITH ME ! some bf of hers, number 2 i said don't get a fake ID , i said DHV about it , like EZO said : "I had a friend (girl) who was into a guy who was 15... But he was really mature and macho etc etc" , thats what i meant, show her you are like that, and what is with the "you didnt have a car" ??? that is soooooo AFC to say , omg I don't have a car or money, now I won't get laid hahah if you believe in that man..srry to say but you are a loser... and READ before you go wild on pple
hey Dre it's not my fault you don't believe girls date younger guys, if you never had the experience or never tried it on younger girls, don't be saying it's not real ! pffff
V3nu

Os thanks for all the help. Just to clarify. She is deifnately NOT into clubbing/drinking, she's not a slut or anything like that, infact quit the opposite, and she actually turns 18 in August and I turn 16 in Janmuary so she's more like 2 and a bit years older. She's just plaiN NICE. AAAAALLWAYS smilinG as I said, and it's not like she's had heaps of bf's. Plus I've read The Game and done a little study on PUA techniques etc so it's not like I'm a complete newbie. I don't really have AA, I've done a bit of sarging etc etc. I know this sounds extremely AFC, but I'm thinking I'll slip my number into her pocket as i hug her, then hopefully she'll txt me asking who it is and we'll take it from there. You see in the show, when we're offstage, we're in seperate dressing rooms (obviously) so it's hard to get a chance to chat to her. And if I approach her elsewhere and start a convo, probably one of her friends will come up and interupt etc...shit this does sound disgustingly AFC - making all these excuses. I suppose I'll DHV by sort of subtly sending off the message that it's a privelege for her to be talking to me...look thanks for all the advice, keep it coming, and I'll post back after the show tonight as to what happened.

Help the kiwi out.
Cheers.

"I once even went out with a girl who the next year was thinking of marrying (she was 19 and I was 15-16)"
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"first i said I dated a girl who was thinking of getting married next year NOT WITH ME ! some bf of hers"
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"as I told you, going clubbing and stuff to make attraction," + "if I was 15 I would include that I have much older friends, with who we go out clubbing or partying, fake ID"
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"number 2 i said don't get a fake ID"

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"and what is with the "you didnt have a car""
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"decided to go out with a 15 year old, who cant even drive yet"
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@ 15 you don't have license

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srry to say but you are a loser... and READ before you go wild on pple
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V3nu you are a loser... and READ before you go wild on pple

listen to your own advice, Fucking Idiot

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"hey Dre it's not my fault you don't believe girls date younger guys, if you never had the experience or never tried it on younger girls, don't be saying it's not real ! pffff"
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"Krista Said: girls tend not to date younger, ESPECIALLY in high school.

and when they do its not 3 years younger "

My last girl friend was 22, thats 4 years older, In high school its completely different, don't talk shit about people you dont know kid, you wont get far in life

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By the way, let me help you out here kiddo, =/= means its unequal, as in what you said earlier doesnt match up with what you just said.

Once again, Get The Fuck Out of Here with your bullshit lies.

Don't let me catch you in here again, or i'm going to have to give you a spanking and put you on time out, and no crying, or no dessert after dinner.

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-Dre

If your going to question me, you better have a theory behind your argument.

"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
-Harvey Fierstein

Power to you, and hey anything can work, so good luck,

what every you do bring your A game, your going to go far in life i can tell

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-Dre

If your going to question me, you better have a theory behind your argument.

"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
-Harvey Fierstein

hahahha i m sooo scared tough guy lmao, kid? i m ur age you fag
call you loser not dre hahaha, keep typing, trying to prove urself and fulfill ur deep hurt ego
"get you a spanking" or "no dessert after dinner." ? wtf is that bro ?? get a life man lmfao
i feel srry for ur gf if thats how you talked to her and to other girls hahhahahhaha
pce out call you loser (thats what girls called you in HS hahah without ur car and money hahahhahah) hahaha

btw ViceD good luck

V3nu

HOLY F Dre , 117 posts in JUST A MONTH , like seriously do you just sit in front of the PC all day long and type type on the forum, i m already imagining your 24 year old gf hahahhah, you probably picked her up in an Internet Cafe playing some game hahahhaha
quick guess are your only friends the guys on the forum ??? no real friends? ......sad
hahhhahhahahha Dre ur 2222 hilarious !!! hahahhahah poor high school geek..... sad
hahahahhaha

From V3nu with <3

I'm stepping in for your daddy, he obviously didn't do a good job.

Use Microsoft word, and take a college English class it will do this forum a world of good.

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-Dre

If your going to question me, you better have a theory behind your argument.

"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
-Harvey Fierstein

no srry i dont like an 18 year old geek as my daddy lmao
i m srry i dont type in Microsoft word and then copy it in the forum lmao, i ve a life u know

V3nu

3.87 posts per day, holy shit sparky I must be one of them SUPER nerds.

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-Dre

If your going to question me, you better have a theory behind your argument.

"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
-Harvey Fierstein

Bitch Neither of them was an option, I'm your new daddy, and you best be typing in word,

ps. Son its almost 11 on a school night, get your ass in bed.

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-Dre

If your going to question me, you better have a theory behind your argument.

"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
-Harvey Fierstein

w/e fag lmao
wont waist my time on ur geeky ass

V3nu

uuughh i kinda cant daddy, ur mom is not letting me go... she should definitely go on a diet thou , got a little nah i would say a lot of body fat u know, u c her more often , i think u already noticed.... sad

V3nu

This is what separates the men from the boys,

Junior, you can not go around and give up on everything you do in life, but then again thats what separates me from you, keep on keeping on

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-Dre

If your going to question me, you better have a theory behind your argument.

"Never be bullied into silence. Never allow yourself to be made a victim. Accept no one's definition of your life; define yourself."
-Harvey Fierstein

yah yah keep talking pfff hahahhahahhha

V3nu