Hey everyone. I'll get straight to the point. I'm 15 and I'm after a nearly 18 year old girl. She's the most perfect girl I've ever seen. I'm at a guys school and she at a girls one. Both school's are doing this show which we're both in and through which I met her. She's always smiling at me (but she smiles at EVERYONE), and she's a very, very nice girl and very beautiful. I've hugged her twice and she was not reluctant at all, but the best way to describe our 'relationship' is that of two friendly work collegues who don't know each all that well. There are 4 nights left of the show until the after party where I hope to ask her out. However in the mean time I need to DHV and give her a reason for going out with me...especially since she's practically 18 and I'm only 15.

So it'd much appreciated if you guys could give me some breif advice on how to:

1) DHV to the max
2) Create attraction
3) Get to know her more and vice versa
4) Ultimately, the best way to ask her out

Cheers guys. It'd be cool if I could get as much info/tips/techniques as possible ASAP.

I've got till the 4th of April. Come on fellas, give me you're best advice!

Oh and one way I think I can create attraction and DHV, aswell as keep the conversation interesting and flowing, is by telling jokes/stories. Has anyone got any real good ones? I don't want really dirty ones, but ones that will make her laugh ultimately. Cheers.

Hey man... I appreciate the effort and I am sure you are a great guy... But, to pull that off you will need strong game indeed and such things take time. The age difference is a real problem, yes. If you do not already have solid indications that she is into you I dont think that it is gonna be easy. Problem two is that you already know her a bit. Go for another one girl man.

Sorry to desillutionize you but Im trying to be realistic. If you have no previous game experience and take on a problem like this, it is like fighting a dragon with a toothpick. But read up on some ways to DHV... Get a copy of the venusian arts and read like crazy, it couldnt hurt...

Cheers man. But I still wanther. I'm gonna try but with the attitude of not really caring about the outcome, so I won't feel depressed if she turns me down.

No desire, nothing matters... Help you it could...

girls tend not to date younger, ESPECIALLY in high school.

and when they do its not 3 years younger

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yup.. back when i was in high school.. the oldest girl i've dated was a year older than me.. and they were attracted to me... it's not until i was in college that i dated girls 2 years older... ( i was always attracted to older women... or let's say experienced ones)

aswell as what the guys said before, it seems like you've put all your eggs in 1 basket, its not something an aspiring PUA should be doing.

hey, i hope you get this in time,

High school girls aren't built for the game, they have not been hit on by thousands of men yet, and they have no idea of what they are looking for, thats why they usually date older men, (in their 20's)

Just know what you want, watch out for her shit test's, and don't let this age gap be a big deal, just remember you can who ever you want/when ever you want

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Guys you gotta be kidding me
ViceD don't get hopeless by what this guys are saying, I discovered PUA when I turned 17 and since I've been in the game, every single routine I had I practiced it on the girls in high school, every single neg, DHV, Esp you name it, HS girls were my PUA for starters helpers.
And from own experience I know that the game works on younger girls, especially if she is almost 18 !!!!!
It was hard to apply it to girls who were younger then 17 but after uughh everything works

Krista Said: girls tend not to date younger, ESPECIALLY in high school.

and when they do its not 3 years younger

Seriously I don't know where you got that, since I was 14 (even before I discovered PU) I've never had a single gf younger than me, I once even went out with a girl who the next year was thinking of marrying (she was 19 and I was 15-16), what Krista said is a myth.

Going back to your situation ViceD, when I was younger I just acted like I was older and smarter then my age group to impress girls(of course I wasn't, and don't go to overboard)
It's kind of hard to give you help because I had never had school which are separated.
Personally, I would say go with the basic, just open her, cz you already know her, then do a transition routine, then an attraction routine, as you said with many DHV to show her you are at her lvl ( if I was 15 I would include that I have much older friends, with who we go out clubbing or partying, fake ID ), and never feel like she is better then you cz she is older, I used to ask girls and put them on the spot why didn't she go after younger guys after showing I was better then her age group guy friends.
And PLZ don't ask her out, do casual (ex. you are going shopping to get some shoes, she can tag along, cz she would be of great help, DHV and attract her thou before you do that) if u feel you got enough attraction maybe get her to a k-close ( BUT DON'T GET 2 EXCITED, if you do later she will think : " omg what I'm doing he is just 15" that would happen if YOU don't stop it first)
hey man and for the stories get the Routines Manual from Savoy and Don search online for PDF ebook, they got very basic routines, especially for transition just make one routine with DHV, as I told you, going clubbing and stuff to make attraction, oh and don't forget to qualify her and push -pull, dont neg to much , she aint 18+ yet lol
Good Luck
V3nu

Thanks mate. Very motivational. If you guys could stick with me this week and I'll rewport back on what happens that'd be great.

Okay, so your telling me, a 19 year old, who should be out @ a frat house or a night club, decided to go out with a 15 year old, who cant even drive yet, BUT WAIT not only that, but you had her begging for marriage? There is absolutely no chance is hell that anyone would ever believe you, you would have to be pretty dumb and gullible to fall for some shit like that, I mean i have heard my fare shares of bullshit on these forums, but for fucks sake kid, are you fucking kidding me?

And you told this kid who is 15, to get a fake ID? first off those mofo's cost around 150 a piece, 2nd i have friends that are 21 and still get carded, what makes you think a 15 year old would get in? is there something the matter with you? Get The Fuck Out of Here, with you full of shit advice,

Me and the others are trying to help this kid out, and you have the nerve to tell some cacamemi bull shit lies,

Shame on you, JUST SHAME ON YOU

Go tell your faerie tales somewhere else,


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Call me Dre is right.. ok so we're not putting you down but you have to see realistic here. Girls that age TEND and i've stated TEND to go for older guys.. my GF is a year younger than me.. im 17 shes 16. Trust me.. but if your not worried about the outcome and it wont affect your self confidence if you get rejected then by all means practice on her it would be good experience.

As for the approach.. walk up to her with ALL confidence as you need it to pull this off convincingly.. "OH I knew I spotted trouble over here... how did I know you'd be causing it?" That way you've set up the cocky funny playful frame and you can take it from there really. Her: ":O what me?! Noooo im not trouble!" You: "What you on about?! Don't think I didnt see you in the back of that police car the other day" (as you say this get closer and closer obviously not too close.. then I would do something funny like pat her down but be VERY careful how you do it! Pat the sides of her hips twice.. then step back looking shocked and say "I knew you was packing heat!" thats just something off the top of my head but you gotta be able to pull it off convincingly.. if you do it nervously she'll figure you out easy.

I either wanna bring ya down, dude, but the fact is that YOUNG GIRL ARE usually ATTRACTED TO OLDER THAN THEMSELVES

But dont get this like Im telling you that you dont stand a chance, I would say YOU ALWAYS HAVE A LITTLE CHANCE.

You gotta get hell of a game going on to get this girl. DONT BE TOO NEEDY, she will see you as a kid.

Start reading topics here, DO NOT DO THE MISTAKE I DID:
- I read the topics and tried to learn them as they were chemistry formulas. You should try to understand them and assimilate things you find.

But I would say you should not ask her out this so soon. START STUDY THE GAME, if she has a bitchshield I would read about negs. C&F (Cocky & Funny) is also good to "learn".

You got a lot of DLVs in her eyes, you cant go clubbing, you cant drive... and so on. Proof her somehow you can have fun without them.

Didnt read original post from word to word, but if you live in big city/town, go practicing things. If you are suffering about AA (Approach anxiety) read up this post:

"The Newbie Mission" the-newbie-mission-vt41556.html

SORRY FOR CONFUSING POST, I WROTE THIS IN A HURRY AND LISTED THINGS UP JUST IN THE FORM THEY CAME UP IN MY MIND

My conclusion: Dont go ruin up your chances yet, start learning, when you think you are ready, go for it.

You wont come a PUA in one night, it takes time. REMEMBER TO TRY OUT THINGS IN REAL LIFE, DONT JUST READ.


Good luck buddy,

waewae.

EDIT: Tease her, but dont follow her like a puppy dog, because "you live your own life, you are busy man, she comes to your reality"

you're an exception, not the rule.

Plus, that being said, I dated a girl older than me. And from experience with girls, they TEND not to date younger.

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