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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:17 pm 
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Imma try game at the mall.
So theres a lot of openers you can use right?

--Sunglasses Store--
I can use the sunglasses off/on opinion opener

--Cologne Store--
Cologne Opener

--Clothing Store--
Which shirt looks better?

--Card Store--
Grab 2 different cards, maybe for a birthday or whatever. Then walk around and find a girl and ask her quickly without thinking to much and ask her which card do you think is better? Then tell her that its my sisters birthday tomorrow and im doing some last minute card shopping. haha.

--Girl by herself--
"hey i know this may be weird but i think your really cute and id probally kick myself if the ass if i never come and say hi, so hi! lol"

--Group of girls--
???



Okay so how would you go about after the opener??? Like how would you transition from opener, to rapport build, and time bridge to hang out (or number)? I mean, since there is a movie thearter and food court near by, thatd be perfect for an excuse to hang out.

For the girl by herself opener, I was thinking about saying that. laugh. be cock funny. tell her im just trying to meet new people because i just moved here. wait for her to ask from were. then ask her what part of town shes from. then say im gonna attend __ college in fall. Then ask her what school she goes to. Then say that you have to go, and use the "ring finger" routine to build some kino and its pretty interesting... Now what?

lol. Please help! thanks. Imma go to the mall tomorrow with some friends.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:40 am 
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:46 pm 
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Hello, Fidelity.

The most vital aspect of a communication is the question. The question is the Engine which drives and steers the conversation.

You should primarily concentrate on asking questions to prolong the conversation. Conversely, making statements usually results in no responses or very poor responses.

For example:

You: Shoes are cool
Her: ... Yeah. They are.
You: I really like Brown ones.
Her: ...
You: Laces are difficult to tie so I use velcro.
Her: ok

Making statements doesn't give her an incentive to reply. this is the most important lesson I've ever learned.

If you make a statement, always follow up with a question. For example:

Me: I love the ice cream here, chocolate's my favourite. Are you a fan of ice cream?
Her: Yeah I am. Strawberry's my favourite.
Me: Awesome. Sometimes I like to put sauce on my ice cream. Do you live around here?
Her: Yeah... I live just over there.
Me: Cool It's a nice area around here. I'm over here on holiday. It's quite cold where I'm from, but it's quite pleasant here. Do you like it here? Have you ever thought about moving away? (two questions here, you'll note)
Her: Sometimes yeah. But I like sunny places.
Me: That's cool, because I could picture you sitting on a beach drinking a nice, tropical drink. You're cool. What do you do for fun around here?

The above example shows me dominant framing! Ok, it's not a great conversation, but what it shows is that Human beings have a strong inclination to respond to questions. NOTICE that it's me who's asking ALL the questions and generating the conversation whilst she passively follows my lead. She might ask questions which you can respond to, but your duty as a PUA is to lead and dominate the interaction.

Also, there is also a technique called stacking.

You have your opener. But openers can be used as you advance into the conversation. You can start of with the sunglasses opener, and then once you've had a brief interaction using the technique above, use another opener such as Gay shirt opener mid way into the interaction, whilst throwing in other routines.

Hope this helps

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