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Hey Doc, my biggest sticking point is building attraction. I have a good opening skills (no AA ever) and great seduction skills. I just can't get a grip on how I am successfully building attraction. My volume of approaches makes up for the quality of the content most of the time. I have asked several women after F-closing, what made me different that they chose me over other guys. Their answers were always so generic I still didn't understand what made me attractive to them. My personality is very similar to Stiflers in the movie "American Pie". I guess my whole game revolves around me being a CnF asshole, who throws out some decent conversation pieces and just works the room. It works, but I would like it to work at a higher success rate. So, is it possible to build attraction at will? If it is how do I accomplish this?

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Hey Doc,
Here is my problem, KINO. I know this girl likes me but I can't do kino smoothly. I'm so afraid. I can talk very well. I usually get the conversation started about my life and how I'm doing. I get nervous touching the girl and it shows on my face. Damn it.


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i like this girl in shool.... we have been flirting with each other quite a while....but recently i discovered she has a bf.... she hasnt mentioned him b4...however she did ask me if i kno him....as in she neva told me she was his gf.... wt do i do? and i really like this girl


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hey doc HB10 at my school my confidence levels are high btw. with this chick its on and off sometimes she all over me others shes not i need to know if she defitnetly likes me. some background info:
kino escalation has failed twice
i wanna go from good friend to boyfriend-long story short


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met this girl for the first time a week ago at a mutual friends house. talked wit her, got effed up wit her, had a very lenthy conversation with her. built some nice rapport. negged her slightly. did a good job as far as my communication skills go. didn't close anything.

say her last night, same kids house. i noticed i was getting some IOIs through out the night. playing with her hair while we were talking, some light kino every so often. little stuff.

it was late, we had smoked the devil's lettuce with some ppl.

it was just me and her and the room with my friend passed out on the couch. again great convo..me leaning back on the couch. we talked about a lot of common interests and what not. a few IOIs and lite kino took place during the conversation again. she decided she was going and i went to kiss her goodbye and she turned her head and said not now...

idk what that means. did she not want to, did she have terrible cotton mouth like myself and didn't want to...idk. but it was kinda awkward.

but my question is i know i will see her again. that is a fact. how should i handle it when i see her? should make a joke out of it? or should i just act like it didn't happen. think i should build better kino and try again? idk. HELP PLEASE


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heya doc.
being an introvert, and someone who isn't exactly the most talkative in social situations, i was finally about to attempt the newbie drill the other day (saying "Hi" to ppl i walk by). but i was thinking... should i say it to literally every person i walk by? regardless of whether its a 1 set, 3 set or 5 set? to people who look like they're zoned out looking at the ground? to someone sitting on a bench reading? or is it only to people who like make eye contact with you as you cross paths?

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heya doc.
being an introvert, and someone who isn't exactly the most talkative in social situations, i was finally about to attempt the newbie drill the other day (saying "Hi" to ppl i walk by). but i was thinking... should i say it to literally every person i walk by? regardless of whether its a 1 set, 3 set or 5 set? to people who look like they're zoned out looking at the ground? to someone sitting on a bench reading? or is it only to people who like make eye contact with you as you cross paths?

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so u dont have to wait fur three weeks:
everyone who looks like they would actually hear u, assuming u speak at a pretty loud level. if u do it just to hb's it looks really odd. (Why is that guy only saying hi to hot chicks? Is he trying to pick them up?) look at it from someone elses perspective


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Lets say in the middle of the day you open a 2-3 set in a public spot, where should the conversation then lead to?

To be more specific, naturally Im an actor, reading scripts is something Im good at doing so once the material is up I just freak out, even though I am still getting OIO's from the target. So for day game (or any type of game for that matter), is memorizing scripts a good idea? And what sort of angle for the approach is most appropriate to get conversation flowing?


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appologies for the long post doc. posted in newbie questions but didint get any replies so thought i would try again here.

so i been tryin to game this girl, we met last week she goes to work with me in the same car as my other mates so i get to spend some time with her in the back seat in the morning and after work probably about 30 minutes each way, which i think is a good time as i dont want to spend too much time with her as to not cock up and make her miss me i guess. alwasy leaning back, doing a lot of c n f, more c than f cos im stupid like that :p but been swinging the other way now as much as possible. been trying to click my fingers wenever i make her laugh hopefully thats the concept of nlp used correctly unless i totally misunderstood the application.

so anyway is strted going kino after she said ohh i have eye bags so i looked at her put my hand on her face and said yea... they not too bad tho.

next i examined her hand and told her to use more moistiuriser as her hands are rly dry. lastly i said that her flaky nails make her look like tramp. so she pretended to cry which actually was probably the best crying impression i seen in my life, i actually believed it so i did not know what to do for a few seconds... i froze, thought i went too far.. she had me fooled like a muppet. but then i recovered a little bit she kept on making me sing a song which was stuck in my head refused to do so, so i said that shes being such a child and she liked telling me what to do dosent go well with me, all in a smily way. so i deided to stop being resposnive and prettended there was something that cought my attentioun out the window, ny ways she started touching my shoulder to get my attention and as soon as she did she says 'im sorry' so i assume shes looking for me to accept her and just say its ok. but im not sure its the right thing to say.

another thing ny making fun of her a lot but wen i throw in a compliment like ure to cute to work here or somin like that, she just dosnet say anything and looks kind of akeward. were suppsed to be goin meeting up this weekend to go to the pub, game of pool im thinkin.

ny ways this has been my first attempt at application since i started reading some of the material and im not certain im doing it rite or doing enough or im over thinking it or ahtever please critize me to the bone guys and leave some good tips. i ahvent been good at conveying being preselcted as i havent rly had any idea to come up with anything half decent to say dont want to scare her away with competion or getting her to get to think too much, until we actually meet up at the weekend.
if u guys have some good suggestions at going more kino and stuff help me out!

thx dom.

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I really need help, Ive done so much in my life, but when i look back i cant think of anything to use for a DHV story, i even tell good story's wrong, and get a negative reaction.

Dont get me wrong, im a very funny, sociable guy, who can make friends in a heartbeat. But i just cant seem to tell a story about me that makes me look good, like ill even lie, and say something was worse than it it just to avoid seeming like a show off.

Im not sure what you can do to help, but any help would be great.


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Doc,

Always been a natural to this (vital in uni i think) but some techniques have definitely helped me out

Anyway, exams are approaching and I've been gaming a few girls; one of them, absolutely smoking btw, is one i'd like to keep around for a while. I've already closed the deal. Problem is that with exams coming up i'm gonna have to go into hiding and study for a whole two weeks.

Whats the best way to keep the spark from dying in this situation? i'm getting sick of exchanging texts.


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Hi. I've been a keyboard jockey for about a year now. my 18th birthday is within a month and im going to start go to clubs so I'm getting prepared. :)

I have this problem with negs. I have lots of examples of negs but i dont now when to say them. Should i keep negging them throughout the whole pickup or just in the beginning of the interaction? What's the timing? Do you say it in the middle of a sentance? do you neg them every time they throw a shit test?

What about the neg that Mystery has when a girl touches him, he says: "hands of, that's 5 bucks every time you touch" (and if she keeps on touching) "are we writing a tab here?" It seems like it prevents you from kino escalating.

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Well, I have a doubt.

Some days ago, a friend of mine told me about a colleague of him who he wanted to present to me.

So, last friday we went to a cerimony regarding the end of high school around here.

Unfortunately, I was kind sad because of personal problems, so I wasn't very happy, but my friend presented me the girl (since we'd go to the same college).

Well, it went well, but after a minute or so I negged her, since she had some manneirisms of a 8 ou 9 (she's an 8 actually).
The neg was: "Were you 3 years ago on x school? The reason why I'm asking this is because 3 years ago I was there and I don't remember seeing you (smile)."
She answered she did, but also "I don't remember seeing you too (smile)."

Someone called me in order to received the document, so I had to go and said to the girl: "well, I'm going to receive the document. Anyway, we'll see each other on college" and smiled.


My doubt is if I screwed up, since I'm not very experienced.


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hey doc,

please take a look at this thread, it very important

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hey Doc!

I'd love to have some feedback on my thread posted earlier today. i didnt post 5 answers yet, im very new here and dont want to reply some threads just because to be able to post a link here
so, the title of thread is: Advice on HB9, good judging?
please take a look if you can,

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