well am currently reading the Venusian art .
am learning new stuff and what i sometimes do wrong.
i was wondering if some one more knowing could help me in these areas

what is higher value?
what does he mean buy baiting the girl
i am talking about the m3 model.

o and it would be helpful if someone can post like a mini example.




ty
pz

ps. ill prob use this tread to ask my questions cus am sure ill have much more

also how do you build attraction.?
the book tells you to build attraction but not how.

im not an expert, but i can explain some of this.

demonstrating higher value is showing something good that sets you apart from every other guy out there.

as to how to build attraction, there are many ways, if she believes you are the prize, then some attraction is built, being confident and not being needy are also attraction builders. keep some mystery about yourself and dont give in to her shit tests, this will all help to build attraction. well not much, but i hope it helps, not to sure on what baiting is at the moment, but maybe someone else could shed some light

oo i c thx


now a other question when i use a opener what should i do next.
ill give a example also tell me if this is a good opener/neg/higher value

hai those (shoes/shirt/pants/earrings/etc..) are cursed ,

she says :"why?" our


i say : " cause just yesterday i seen two girls with those exact shoes/shirt etc.. and they bout tripped and fell "


she says: "....." ( what eva she says am not sure)


i say :"every one was laughing bout times i was the only person who went and helped her with her books."



she says: "........"



i say " yea i dont know whats up with people these day"


after i get finished am stuck and don't know how to continue.

so pls some advise....


i plan to use this one (if people here thinks its good) and the "drug dealer one 2mmorow =x for some practice


also how can i get the # close without sounding chezzy ...


ps. am not used to talking to girls most of the girlfriends i had i wasn't the one who approached them they were the one who approached me so am kinda of lost.

and the girls were not ugly ..


am having a hard time keep unattractive girls of me i dont knw why. ;/


thx

well i didn't get to go out ;/ iv been studying for these midterms but when i finish ill start it up.
ill probably just game girls who i see on my way to school ,lunch etc but am not going to go out of my way to game a girl this week until my midterms finish (which is Saturday)



(MY OPINION)
the book the Venusian art is a OK book it is not what people say. it teaches u the basic m3 model etc. would i recommended this book? no i would not , our i would say read the first few page and move on( up to page 70 our so).
am currently reading the book the art of approaching which is way better.

i still need more input on the question i posted earlier .

ty for your time

well today was not so good.

i experienced coldfeet which is rare for me.
i don't know why i just freezed up and didn't approach ;(
tomorrow well be better ill try to game the same girl again.


i still need help on the previous questions...
also i trying to think of a good opener i looked on this site and found some but they all seem like weird. like why the ..... would i go up to a random girl and ask that...?
u kwn what i mean.
it could be am just to much of a afc to relies....O_O
if some one can tell me a good natural opener that be great XD



um i think ill keep this tread as like my mini blog ...


k well pz
...
replies would be nice

k well there are few canned openers that don't sound rehearsed and some aren't day game/night game transferable. The drug dealer one for example is, I find, most effective for nightgame. If you approach girls in the daytime on the street and start talking about drugs its like wtf...

Anyways situational openers are the best bet. Just look around you. Look at what they're wearing. For example lets say you're on a bus and some guy has a ridiculous hat on. Get her attention and then nod over at the guy with the funny hat. You can both have a little laugh about it and then you're free to open. If it sounds rehearsed in your head, it will sound rehearsed when you say it.

ty.
i do like using situational openers better i was just wondering if there any better one but u proved my case..

yes i got a bad problem.
i swear my life is like a role coaster.

well first a little history i have a bro that's 1 year older then me.
we are both attending the same college.
we both are really kwn in school ..

well my bro games this girl well call her (A)
then he meets a other girl ill call her (B)
well hes more instreted in (B) (am not sure y, cus i think (A) looks better .
so i tell my bro who looks like me to hook it up with girl (A)..
so am light wait gaming here etc.

and my bro is going out with (B)
(A) doesn't kwn this yet. well the problem is this. she totally whooped over my bro!. i mean i seen her today we hugged. then she went right past me and hugged my bro for a good min....


how can i transfer the atraction to me.?
cus she gives me minor iois like a wink(ETC)
but my bro major iois....
o and am not competing with my bro he told me i can get at her so it aint really a competition with him.

ty i hope u understand what am asking.(i kwn its a wall of text.

-alnano
pz

well long time no post .
i finished midtearms so am happy.
also on Friday .........
ill comeback to it later. got to go


pz

when shud i do a name drop.?

o and whats the cube model.?

To answer your questions (as best I can)

After the opener, you have to be willing to supply 90% of the conversation (Jugglers 90-10 theory). This means, basically, talk your ass off (but about topics of interest, in a slow, confident voice of course . This is also where you start going through routines, DHV and of course, the all-powerful kino.

When it comes to numberclose, here's my advice. Pick up your phone, give it to her and say "Write down your number". Tell her, DON'T ask for her number!
I might advice you to get her e-mail adress instead, this is more low-key and less risky. Then ask for her number in your first / second mail

The cube and other Game routines: game-routines-vt41416.html?highlight=cube

And don't push away unatractive girls, use them as your pawns

Hope this helps you somewhat. Cheers!

thx.


the un attractive girls seem to gravitate to me . some even call me there bf ;/ wich i clearly say is a lie.

so sometimes i have to like avoid most of them =x

also whats nice conversations....


currently 3 girls have showed ioi and i haven't had the balls to say hi

one girl waved at me out of the blue. i didn't kwn what to say cus i was stuk on the fact of her waving.

this other girl been looking at me for days. but i dont kwn what to say

and just recently! a hb8 was smiling at me and waved. in this case i waved back and continued on ;/
i plan to talk to this current girl the hb8.
but am at a total loss.


not every day were a girl makes the first move...

wow how do the hole reputation thing work.? if u give u lose some.?

so how long is shud a brick last.?