I know an HB10, who is perfect (face and body) and can't find any negs for her ... apart from her height. She is somewhat short, which I don't find it bad and know many guys that prefer short girls. I think she is a bit below average tall.

Can I use that as a neg? and if yes what lines you suggest?

One that I thought is: "If you were a bit taller, we would make a perfect couple"

Do you actually need negs for someone you already know, or negs are used only for girls that you meet in clubs?

Since you already know her you could just be playful and says thing like:
'Your pretty cute for a short girl'
'How short are you?'

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Negs are for girls who are on a high-horse.

You don't need to use negs if you have your own value to show.

Negs were used by Mystery to lower the value of girls he was gaming so that his value would seem higher. These days most guys will just DHV a bit more.

You don't need negs. Most of the time negs will simply confuse girls and make them wonder if you like them or if you're just a jerk. Especially if you already know her.

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Cinn is right I don't use negs anymore unless a girl is on her high horse and I find that a really unattractive quality so unless she is stunning I leave her to it and go after someone else. That said I don't find many girls that think too much of themselves one in ever hundred is probably about right.

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Negs are a very dangerous thing to do. You must realize although negs are very clever and playful teases they are also insults. And for many women playful or not they don't want to hear anything negative about themselves. Negs are only good if someone is too into themselves and by teasing them like that your letting them know there not all that. I really wouldnt use negs too often because many guys make their negs a little to harsh which can turn off for the woman your going for.

I think Mystery once recommended that you shouldn't neg something she can't change like her nose for example.

Was he wearing makeup and a furry hat when he said this Negs are a scam, much like most of the gurus theselves. People who are negative always hate themselves. You don't have to kiss anyone's ass, but being a jerk only hurts you.

Sometimes it is best to avoid arrogant people. Why neg them to bring them down? Just skip them. Move on. Why chase after every chubby thing that doesn't have a penis? I would rather be celibate than in need of a female.

Trust me, she isn't perfect. Quit using stupid numbers to rate people. That only shows how insecure someone is. Every single one of us is f----- up in many different ways. Some of ass suffer from gas problems...Some from constipation. You get my point.

There is quite some overreaction to the word 'neg'.

This is really just a tease, delivered correctly she'll laugh and maybe give you a playful punch on the arm! I think you can still work on the line and make it funny, it's a bit cold as it stands.

Technically neg is something a little more calculated. Rather than a playful opener. The word is banded around very liberally and in most cases its just used to describe gentle teasing. Showing you are a fun guy and aren't going to kiss her ass like every AFC.

they work but I get so sick of reading field reports of people screwing up using negs that I try to get people not to use them.

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A neg isn't and by no means should be a slam/insult on them anyways.. a lot of people are blending the definition line between negs and playful banter. Agreed on only use them for the high horse and most the time those girls aren't worth it.

Advice for you is don't use it to try and gain attraction, don't go searching for something to neg her on. A playful remark you could say however is asking "hows the weather down there?"

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Negs are totally not needed here.
Since you already know here, they will be useless. The same applies for DHVs.
You've passed the attraction and comfort stage. It's time to seduce, my good man!

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