Yes I do need to get her alone but when I get her alone how should I handle it....I know she is into me but she is timid as shit! she gets tense I think....I almost want to just yell at her "RELAX!" haha because then I tense up and loose my focus.

Most women are easy to kiss because they loosen up when Im alone with them but she seems to get even more tense.

Take it one step at a time. I had this with a girl who is very touchy feely but completely panicked when I went for the kiss. Extremely shy, to the point where she told me her heart was pounding. So I suggested it a couple of times, then we ended up moving to another seat.

So I offered to kiss her on the cheek, then told her to do the same to me. Then a few minutes later I suggested a peck on the lips. I kept it at just a peck, but gave her another peck a minute later and she took it from there...

You just need to build the sexual tension up slowly, find what they're comfortable with then slowly escalate.

Don't waste too much time with these girls.

These girls get their kicks off of guys who grovel at them. Well hey, don't you feel a bit of "jolly" when a girl digs and she does a monkey act just to get into your pants? This is how these gype of girls release their sexual tension. . . through the giddyiness of knowing that they are "WANTED" . . .

And these girls typically know their physical boundries as well. They draw a line where the next step of "closeness" leads to any type of fun. These girls are so freaking boring, I don't know why you guys would even bother. I mean look ALL around girls like this at any given time. Every girl who is standing around the vicinity of these boring fishes are more fun, horny, and exciting. Why would you focus on the dud?

Anyhow, if you get your jollies off of hitting up a bore then even still, don't waste too much time. Go with something like:

You: My God, you make me think nasty thoughts!

Her: Blah, blah, I'm a boring asshole. Blah, blah . .

You: Well, if I wasn't thinking about having sex with you while staring at you . . . I'd be gay wouldn't I?. . .

Her: Yes, but I am a boring asshole . . . blah, blah, blah . .

You: Woh, woh . . . don't get any wrong thoughts. I'm a gentleman. I'd of course want to take you out on a date first! What kinda guy do you think I am?

Her: I am still a boring asshole . . .

You: . . . The whole 9 yards, flowers, chocolates . . . maybe a kiss on the cheek after the first date.

Her: . . . you guessed it . . . I am still a boring asshole . . .

You: Maybe after the 3rd date. Yeah, that's sounds about right. . . After the third date . . . I'll make love to you.

Her: (Who the fuck cares what boring girls say? Have you figured it out by now?)

So this is when you set up the date. If she's in for a date, she is in for SEX and you do not have to wait for the 3rd date. Chicks don't calculate shit . . . she just knows that a "yes" means she's in for a vaginal pounding in the near future.

If she blows you off, she has her own sexual issues to deal with. You have no time, the expertise, nor the energy to deal with weirdos. Hit up the boring girl's friend and fuck her instead.

Try to be aggressive for once and check out the results. But of course, be sure that you have a backup plan case it fails.

Try to be aggressive once and check out the result. Be very vigilant and be aware of her reactions. Make sure that you know when to stop. But be sure that you have a backup plan case it fails.

What backup plan? Hitting up one of a billion other girls in the World?

Realizing I just typed up "advice" more appropriate for the older group. . .

Ha ha . . . if you're a 16 year old kid, just follow everybody else's advice.

IMO, if you don't like being challenged by that girl then find someone who won't give you any hardships and in return, you'd end up still lacking experience dealing with different types of girls.

Well if it fails then calm her down. Words like I'm sorry, got carried away. If she walks out then why follow her unless you want to. You won't give up easily right? If she's not worth your time and effot then dump her, period.

Well boys this thread doesnt matter much any more because I took things into my own hands and said fuck it! I have nothing to loose! She text me telling me to come out with her friends and her....I went out and when we wer dancing I grabed her pushed her against the wall and told her she looked hot and I was turned on....then I kissed her and she kiss back. I just text her about 30 mins ago telling her we should hang out somtimes this week and she said ok...actualy told me to come out tonight but I said I couldnt.

Exactly man. These girls need someone who is willing to push and pull, so you go for the kiss, she says no but her body language says otherwise. So you have 3 choices:

1. You can give up
2. You can keep trying until she either gets too uncomfortable or agrees - plus I don't want other people around me thinking I'm a tool trying to kiss a girl that doesn't want to kiss me
3. You can find her comfort zone and start there - an example is a kiss on the cheek, even shy girls are okay with that, then you get her to do the same, then if she's really shy a kiss on the lips, just do this for a bit and she will open up more to you.

Think of number 3 like a soda bottle, you shake it once or twice, nothing, but you keep shaking and the pressure builds up...

Honest I still am not sure were I stand with her....when I said we should hang out she said ok. Honestly I think she is just looking for a guy who takes charge....she wants a man not a boy.

She doesnt throw her self at me like other women do which kinda throws me off....but what ever not all women are the same.

Congratulations man! There you go! I'm glad for you. You don't know where you stand yet? I'm sure your in the process of building a base now. Goodluck.

Bringing this up because this is VERY important. This game isn't some obstacle course in gym class that allows you to "grow" through difficulty.

No . . . this is about FUN and good relations. Some women test us to see how you'll react. Others are just plain nuts and will make your lives absolutely miserable. When you detect this, just leave theim a lone . . .

Nothing wrong with "difficult". Work is good. But miserable people are simply miserably to be with . . . Don't waste your lives on them.

TTM: Just a guess here; she's a brunette, not too tall but with a brilliant sense of humour and you guys have a good few in-jokes?

In my experience, the hot yet shy ones are always a specific shade of brunette with a fairly similar facial shape. There's something about them that I find ridiculously hot. I've just been gaming a girl with dyed red hair who had the right type of face and personality to have that shade of natural hair and when I asked her, it turns out I was right.

A way that I quite like is talking about how you've changed so much in the past few years;
'for instance I was thinking about my first kiss earlier... I was so nervous and I kept trying to do it but I kept thinking too much. After a while, when I was trying to get myself to go for it... I kind of just stopped thinking for a second and realised that I was in the process of leaning right in and it was too late to stop, which was good... Now, of course, when I want to kiss someone I just do that... hair thing [You brush a stray bit of hair out of her face and tuck it behind her ear], move my hand around their neck to the back of their head... [Do all this as you go for it] run my fingers loosely through their hair... just... pulling a little bit...' and then lean in and kiss.

Just make sure you do it when the time is right.

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