I'd say experiment, once using no alcohol, then some, and then maybe a lot see where you are at.

Personally though I believe that when picking up, you should be completely sober, it also shows that you don't need anything, game was in you all along.

However if you want to go to a party just for fun, then be my guest get drunk, it a good way of releasing some stress once in a while

In my opinion it's different for everyone.

Ideally, no you shouldn't drink to start out so that you don't use alchohol as a crutch. But lets say you are an average dude just learning the ropes. In this case your willpower probably isn't perfect.

I think it's important that you get success early on and feel comfortable with your new found knowledge and maybe a little social lubricant will make things flow easier so you don't get discouraged.

Personally, some of my most successful pickups came when I consumed a decent amount of alchohol while keeping aware of my surroundings, my targets, my material, etc. Some people, on the other hand, are reduced to mumbling fools when they drink.

In summation it depends who you are, how your body and mind respond to the alchohol and what the situation is. Play around with it and find out what works for you!

oh and another point against alchohol is that it tends to have depressing effects when u start coming down. This will ruin a pickup in progress and make closing a little harder.

don't get drunk. bad idea.

if you're drunk everytime you approach women you're going to feel dependent on alcohol and believe you cant do it without drinking first.

Thanks for all the responses.

I went to the party with a few beers in my blood, really nothing to significantly alter my self esteem or my game. I think that was cool, worked out good. But I can see the logic in what alot of you are writing - I can't be drunk everytime I'm out sargeing, cause if I am to be a real PUA, I wouldn't need the confidence-booster, plus I might screw up my game.

If you are going to drink make sure to pop in a breath mint before you talk to a girl. The worst is when guys would come talk to me at a party or bar and their breath smelled like beer! yuckkk

I can't see how three pints would make you drunk; unless you have an enzyme deficiency or are very small. On the other hand it would reduce AA for people who are not great with women. If you can still stick to your game and calibrate accordingly perhaps a few drinks may make you open up more sets before you develop more confidence.

Well if you are at a bar you pretty much need at least one drink IMO if for no other reason than to carry around. If you don't have one it looks a little weird IMO, & you may be asked why you aren't drinking or why you come to a bar & not drink. Some girls might see you as to much a straight arrow as well. Plus having a drink gives me something in one hand seems to occupy it & make it less fidgity.

Actually I read 1 drink actually heightens you senses & acts like a stimulant. Drivers are actually sharper after one beer then it declines very rapidly.

Oh yeah, this weekend I got pretty trashed & once again got a great lesson why that's a disaster for game to drink too much. This girl I had been going out with for 4 months said she didn't want to see me ever again that night when i thought we were hanging out. I went on out in a depressed mood with the purpose of both getting lit & meeting remedy women. Definetly not a good combination.

What happens when you see an attractive chick during the day? You just not going to open because you don't have a few in you?

ALCOHOL IS A CRUTCH!

Overcome your AA, open sets, talk to people WITHOUT it, then and ONLY after you've rebuilt yourself into being a confident man, should you drink while sarging.

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I can only talk to girls when I completely hammered.

A bad thing I know.

The girl who I can't stop thinking about came upto me a few weeks back, and guessed my bum and starting talking away, at this stage I was completely sober. I actually started to shake, and i am pretty sure it was quite visible for everyone to notice. So I then went away and got drunk, it was the only way I could talk to her. And of course I got to drunk, and she told me she had a boyfriend, which she doesnt have........

Alcohol really is a double edged sword.

A perfect example of what Charlie is talking about as alcohol being a crutch. Hes 100% right and you should really take his advice if you want to enhance your self-esteem and confidence in yourself the right way.

listen to Charlie0.

alcohol not only doesn't give you the confidence you need, but also makes your game weak as you can't think of routines, can't see IOIs, can't even detect IODs!

All that not drunk, but fuzzy.

and besides its effects, look further: someone pushes you and your drink is all over you.. I ain't no Mystery or Style but I don't think that's the best scenario ever for kino, Mr. Sticky Hands

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honestly I think the drunker the better for the most part. As long as you aren't anywhere near throwing up. Maybe its because I drink a LOT for someone my age but I think the confidence you have then is really important

I respectfully disagree. You may feel fine, I've been drunk and I felt fine, but boy I look videos from that night the other day and I go WTF?!? I'm a big fan of alcohol, but when sarging is public enemy Nº2, after yourself.

tonight I'm planing to go out practice a new routine stack and I don't plan to drink anything else that Speed or Red Bull

It doesn't give you confidence, it gives you a whatever/I-don't-give-a-damn attitude.. It comes from experience, not from some colorful, eye melting drink

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