You guys ever get a really timid girl who is not touchy feely? How do you deal with that? This girl is the "good girl" the shy on in the pack and we have seen each other in the bar twice then hung out after....have not kissed her yet but Im planning on kissing her next time I see her. My problem is that she seems to hesitant to get close....I tested her a bit and she doesnt mind me touching her side and she leans into me when we talk but other then that she is very hands off! she told me she was the "good one" in the group and often shy....

So boys how do we deal with a hot shy girl?

I have dealt with this just recently (last week) with three people, but Ive been developing them. So, I'll tell you what worked for me. Im guessing if she is giving you all these IOIs, then your job should be easy.

From my experience, when a girl says she's a 'good girl,' it usually means she isnt easy to sleep with, or would like to imagine herself that way. A kiss, not as big a deal. There is the one where: a lull in the conversation happens, you ask with a big smile "would you like to kiss me?" If she hesistates, there are two types of hesitation Ive noticed. Positive and negative hesisitation. Positive is where she's thinking about actually doing it, but is unsure. Thats the one where you take the opportunity and the chance and go for it, though not with mouth wide open. Negative hesitation is where she is trying to think of a witty comeback to shoot you down and save face. Its all about saving face, which is why one good response to your question from you could be "I didnt say you could, just asked if you wanted to," then smile and laugh. This worked well for me last week with a cute girl from my History class that has never had a boyfriend before. This is one I read from an excerpt someone posted of "The Game."

There is also the more difficult route of increasing physical contact until kissing is comfortable. Important note: if its done wrong, you look very creepy. If you are any good at massaging shoulders, make a joke or comment that allows for a touching on the back, say to her that she feels tense and you can feel a knot, ask if you could rub it out, and thats a decent way of escalating. Not risk free. Also, environment dependent, and its a quick rub, not more than 3 minutes. Ive done it successfully at a house party, and in a bar. There are other ways too, but think escalation.

Dancing also works. All you have to do is grind a little, put your forhead to hers, look her in the eye, and if she makes strong eye contact and it feels right, it probably is right. The massage one has failed for me, this one has yet to fail.

The important thing is that you have to be fun, and she has to be comfortable. Isolation is key to shy girls. Not that you have to take her into a dark corner or back to her place. A crowded dance floor is isolation, as long as her friends arent right next to her.

Seeing as this is post number 2 for me, feel free to take it with a grain of salt.

Nice man well she asked me to come out for her friends birthday to some club so I have to pull out all the stops that night....be on the top of my game, look good, and go in for the kiss haha I now am in with all her friend to which makes in 10 times easier for me!

Now my only problem is that i need to break down her wall....even though she is absolutely stunning I feel like she is very self conscious! and doesnt let many people get close to her because of it....kinda makes me un easy around her because she is so stand offish...but really cool to talk to.

I have given her alot of negs and now I thinK i might throw out a big complement tell her she looks beautiful ect....I never throw complements out like that but I would like to see how she reacts to it?

Try giving her a sense of power with Ciaran's Shock and Awe technique! There's one way to go about things

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I like profi's dancefloor advice. This is how I dealt with a shy girl on the dance floor this past weekend. We were dancing in a group....no one grinding on each other (yet)...tried dancing closer to get into grinding distance and got no response. Luckily it got hot in the club so I asked if she's like to get some air real quick (isolation!) outside I ran my nail moons routines (excellent to initiate kino), found it she had a BF, then ran some BF destroyers to drop her walls...when I felt her walls begin to crash down I took her back to the dance floor. We were dancing apart still but at least she was directly in front of me this time. So I performed the "half turn"....basically grab her right hand with my left and lift it as if telling her to turn....but when she's half way turned bring your hand straight up (the distance will close and she'll get a slight tug in your direction)...now your grinding but facing the same way...so a k-close isn't probable at the point...develop good energy dancing like this for a while and then perform another half turn...now you'll be facing each other again but much much closer than the first time! Do the forehead eye contact thing, and go for it!! works pretty much everytime!

the only problems i've encountered with this is if she won't take the hints and do the half turns...but instead do full turns...that's annoying!!.....but at least you made her turn...which to her..is probably more interesting than just grinding all night.

also if you're in isolation...I've found shy girls tend to respond well to cold readings, any type of chick crack!

yeah, i've definately noticed, that the moment i spin a girl, i immediately get good results and vibes. sometimes its grabbed the positive attention of girls around me, but thats not the norm, to my knowledge. some basic swing moves goes a long way, as long as there is space. dropped a girl once... did not go well...

but in the interest of not hijacking a thread from kissing to dancing...

lol I was actually thinking of pulling the spin....women seem to love it. Im going to pull out all the stops the next time I chill with her....not more pussy footing around....Im always able to build alot of a lot of attraction with every other women so why should it be any diffrent with her? I need to break down her wall and get her to feel comfortable touching and expressing herself to me....it might be hard but any thing worth having is hard so I have my work cut out for me haha

Just my opinion, do it like you accidentally kissed her. Might sound silly but it works!

how do you accidentally kiss somone?

... indeed. thats one i havent heard before...

The big issue with shy, self-proclaimed "good girls" is that they don't want to appear easy. That means that your best bet is to get her isolated before you go for anything.

Next time you see her in a bar, don't try for a kiss in the venue. Get her isolated first, THEN go for it. I'm not a big fan of "kiss gambits," and I think that you should just kino-escalate to kissing, but that's just me. Thing is, it goes double for this girl. She REALLY doesn't want to feel responsible for anything that happens. So I'd say not to use the Mystery Kiss Gambit because it will put the responsibility on her shoulders and she'll go ASD-mode as soon as you break it out. You've got to get in the driver's seat for this one.

Be advised, this girl is probably going to want a lot of rapport and maybe an LTR as well. Remember to leave this one better than you found her, and do NOT tell anyone that knows her that the two of you have been messing around, if it happens. You need to protect this girl's reputation if she trusts you enough to do anything with you.

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I guess you if she's a "hard to get" type, you need to show her that you're really doing an effort to get a score. You need to probably show her that you respect her so much and that kissing her would be an unforgettable moment for you. Just my opinion though...

Ye its just really hard because she is so timid you know what I mean? like we will be hanging out and she seems afraid of touching and afraid of kino....like she is un sure of her self or doesnt want to look stupid? then it makes me feel weird and I dont want to make her feel uncomfortable.

She seems like a really sweet girl! so I dont want to be to much of an cocky guy....prob would turn her off but at the same time I need to do somthing!

Avoid cocky. Go with fun. And ISOLATE, GODDAMMIT!

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