Hello I am having alot trouble trying to game with with girl. She goes to a different high school but me and her family have connections.(She has been over our house once or twice) I usually see her on thursdays at a youth group meet, but because of mi workload its been hard.

Her personality: She is sweet not a bitch at all. She seems religious and I don't know if this is a bad or good thing. There is thing a whole thing with being chaste and crap with church, but i don't want to have it with her at all right now. thats not my intention right now. I'm just trying to get her to be with me in relationship. i believe she already has a boyfiend but i don't think its serious.

Some other questions: should I read "the game" in its entirety ? I am almost done but is there any selected reading that could specifically help me ??

Dude,

I'm an old man. Over the years, I've met nice girls, bad girls, sexy girls, weird girls, crazy girls, etc . . .

Girls are girls. They need cock to live, period. I actually don't think any man can ever truly understand this until they bury their cock in their vagina in some bathroom of a hot night club. . .

Either you grab her, or some idiot who looks cool in a 92 Buick will fuck her in his backseat.

Also ask yourself . . . why are you focused on this girl? What are all her attributes that has you going ga ga?

#1 anthem for AFC's is "accessibility". She's around . . . she smiles . . . she's there. Your families know each other. . . she could be the one. You don't need to "cold approach" her because hell, you already know her.

Don't waste your youth on this fairy tale BULLSHIT! Learn to open random girls . .(how do you know they are not the "one") you never know. Ask girls out. It's really not a big deal. Meet people. make girlfriends. Enjoy yourself. It's your life.

You know that thing about girls who are involved in church not screwing is complete BS. I mean there are cases, which this may be one of them since I'm assuming that the girl is a teenager that she won't have sex but who knows.

Church is an excellent place to meet women if its a place that you fit in at. Just because a girl loves jesus doesn't mean she doesn't love cock too. Don't even for one second assume that just because a girl goes to church that she won't have sex, you may have to work a little more for it but thats good, that just means she isn't a stone cold whore, and might even have some hang-ups about cheating and lying.

You're on to something, keep at it.

yes thank you. But here is the thing, i haven't met her the way Neil Stauss or the other pick up artists have advised. I have known her for 4 years (since elementary years) but Its not like we hang out alot. I would say I know her very well, and I have been over the aquatince level. I met through family and I found out she went to my youth group. Yes she is a teen, but As a another poster advised i should try other women first than go for her. I plan on gaming her you see.....I haven't already but I know her very well. Is this a bad situation ???

Also I have found that she has a boy friend, but I don't think its serious. Is there any true way I can get her ? I mean she never brings her boy friend at the youth group but that in reality doesn't say much.

There's no good or bad. You're young man, start chasing some tail. She's basically "comfort" for you. No need to open, you think she might like you, she's around all the time. . . What I mean by hit up "random" girls is that YOUR girl is also just a random girl. . .

Your right. i haven't established a a "best friend zone" syndrome, I'm mean I really hope not....what should I do if she only views as a friend ? Obivisously i can change it right ?

How old are you?

You've known this girl for 4 years and you don't think she's "just a friend"? . . . and she already has a boyfriend . . .

If you want to try it, stop wasting your time. Don't let this go for 4 years and 1 second longer.

Next time you see her just tell her, "Hey, I hear ________ is a lot of fun, wanna go together this weekend?"

If no, you go, "OK, cool. Maybe next time."

Ask her again another time maybe a week or two later. If "no" again, then you go, "OK." (Now suck it up and stop calling her like some little monkey. Of course if she says yes, then you just flow with it)

Meanwhile . . . do you live in a town with 1 girl? When you walk around, do you only see middle-aged men? Do you go to a all boys high school? What's going on here? Why don't you see some girl and go, "Hey, that's a really cool ______. Did you get that at_______? My sister's been asking for that for it . . . (Any DAMN thing you want to say . . . )

Then get her number and text/call her and go out on DATES! Do this over, over, and over again. Your "girl" is one of thousands in your town alone. She is one of MILLIONS and MILLIONS in your state. . .

There is NOTHING you have written here that demonstrates any special qualities of your girl other than the fact that you already know her so you feel as if you have one foot in that door. (or one hand on her zipper) If so, fine. ASK HER OUT. But don't sit there and waste your time on this crap. It's very boring.

kasabi is right and very very wise.

I'm assuming you're in High school and probably haven't had that much experience with girls in the past, you've probably gone to a few parties, had a little fun, but never done any serious dating. Your whole life right now is probably completely wrapped up in this girl in one way or another. I understand, I was a young kid in a youth group once myself. My greatest regret from that youth group was never dating the cute girl who I thought liked me. Looking back I realized all I needed to do was ask, she was pretty much just waiting for me. But my socially inept teenage brain was too fearful to try. You are so lucky. You are young. You have the whole world in front of you, all you have to do is reach out and grab it. Don't be afraid, the worst thing that can happen is that she says no, and if she says no then at least you have an answer and can move on. I know you're afraid of the answer because it might be "no", but I assure you that a "no" will not end your world and will allow you to sped your time much more wisely; not to mention that asking is the only way you will ever get a yes.

hey man hey i think you should go out with this girl as friends first and just have general fun with her try to build more of a connection with her try to find things that both of u have in common and go out and do that and while u guyz are in the moment together try to build comfort with her and only when u got her attention focused on you 100% then should slowly try to kiss her and see what happens just be natural and be yourself and if it turns out shes just not interested in u then move on theres plenty of fish in the sea