Dear Roady,

Hey mate I'm glad your doing what works for you, sorry I don't do much inner game techniques as all my inner game came from practice. Hope you carry on getting something out of what your doing though!

AFC Adam,

Dear keysersoze123,

hahaha, don't tempt me mate, If I wasn't living in the states and wasn't already mentoring another guy I probably would have taken you up on your offer, unfortunately all my time is going on the current one (who has potential but doesn't believe it)

You cant really plan it day by day mate, life is too complex to this to the T but you can do it. First you need to start off by seeing what kind of value the people you want to hang out with respond to, then you need to acquire it.

If I wanted to get in a group of college sports guys for instance, I'd bring down a group of hot girls and be seen laughing, joking and flirting with them. Then I'd either introduce the girls to them or get the girls to introduce me to them.

That's just an extreme example to make the point and wouldn't want you to go about it this way.

Start off by joining groups and clubs in the college, teams and events that kind of thing, add value to the members and get involved with organising things like school events, essentially you'll be a connector and being some form of organiser will allow you to talk to everyone because they are part of the college and will want to know whats going on.

Then run game from there adding value to everyone.

Hope this helps,
AFC Adam,

thanks alot man thats great advice )

Hey Adam!

Thanks for the advises, the things you do in this topic are realy great. Gonna try 'em soon, thanks again

Hello Adam I am a big fan btw, here is my dilemma....I ended up meeting this HB9 named Kim @ the gym. We had a wonderful conversation about evolution and guys vs. women, so on, and so on. I felt positive about the date we set up for Wednesday and decided to use a little text game for heightened tension, (C&F). We had our date @ Carabba's and it went fantastic! I wowed her with my convos and eventually cubed her with great kino escalation preceding. The vibe was amazing. We then watched a scary movie @ the theater down the street and more kino escalation continued to happen. She was totally feeling me and I knew I could see her as a long term girlfriend. I ended up kissing her @ the end of the night and it could not have been any more perfect. The following 2 dates after that, (high end dinner and movie at my place) went fairly well.

The biggest problem with this girl is that she has been hurt by her BF in the past and told me its hard for her to be physical with anyone else, and says she is not used to the kisses and other passionate displays that I do on her. Anyways other than me just being able to get a quick second makeout it has been great and we are only dating "exclusively" with each other and no one else.

Well, we went to Austin TX this weekend where I was gonna pop the "GF" question to her because I would be bringing her onto my turf and show her my city. This girl has lived in Kuwait and traveled the globe, so I wanted to show her a new city she hasn't been to. Well, when we get there we get to the hotel and unpack and visit two of my friends. She absolutely loves my buddy Mike and they talk about traveling and stuff like that, I really saw her attraction switches trigger when she was talking to him, which bothered me. Anyways we went downtown and it was fairly cold and she was in a bad mood because of the weather but generally she did not like the city as a hole. At dinner she told me that she was not ready to be emotionally ready for a relationship when I told her I wanted to be with her. I told her I understood her feelings and she needs to do what's best for her, obviously.

That night I tried to kino escalate again but could only manage a makeout so I decided to sleep. We didn't cuddle because she still would not open up to me. The next morning we were both kind of hungover and she told me what a great time she had and how perfect I was except she needed more time to think why she wasn't happy at the moment, that it was her problem. Anyways during the car ride conversations were a bit dismal, and I called her out to see why she was so reserved, she kind of blew up just a bit and said "Are there like performance standards for you, I'm just chillin, is this how your ex-gfs acted blah blah blah...." I was caught off guard but maintained a strong frame. It got better once we finally got back home, she gave me a kiss goodbye and told me she wanted to see me before these coming days before she takes a 10 DAY SKI TRIP in Colorado.

I have really developed deep feelings for this girl, but she's so fucking complicated and I found out she added my buddy mike on facebook from her mini-feed and I don't think she had the best time compared to our other dates and she didn't want to be my bf because of emotional problems at the moment. How do I win her heart? What should I do to stay Alpha? How should I initiate the next phone call and when? Please, anybody, I have been with my fair share of women, but I really want this one, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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Dear airwave2oo8,

No probs buddy, glad I could help :0)

AFC Adam,

Dear AB-FF,

Thanks for the probs buddy, Hope it works out for you!

AFC Adam,

Dear RockyPUA,

Mate, your problem is that you've invested more than the girl has, by you telling her you want to date before she has invested has messed up her thoughts and has got her thinking extremely logically about the two of you not to mention her past relationships and experiences with guys and now everything you say or do is being processed by her own experiences (which in this case are mostly negative)

She certainly needs more comfort with you, but above all else she has to invest, right now your too much of a certainty, as in if she so chooses to be with you, you will take her meaning your value is not as high as it once was.

She needs to feel a loss in regards to you, so she can see what exactly she has (the old saying "you dont know what you have until it's gone is so very true)

By the sounds of things you have game, your sticking point is investing before she has, I cant tell you how to un-invest but make sure you don't act differently from what you were doing when she first became attracted to you, don't verbalise the dating thing, It kills attraction and shifts the perspective from the now to the future which also takes away from investment.

Whenever you don't know where you are with a girl, go back to square one.

add value
Comfort
Break Rapport
Qualification
Sexual Escalation

This time, watch your investment. If your investing more than the girl it comes across as needy which kills attraction.

If you want more game methods one thing you can do is show her other girls are into you BUT be very very careful, if done in the wrong way (she see's that your actually trying to get her jealous) you'll lose her altogether.

The best way to do this is to social proof a place to the point that all the hot girls want your attention (they dont have to want to sleep with you, just want to talk to you about something, this effect could be as simple as networking... telling a bunch of models that you know people who are always looking for models because they need them for various work gigs) and then disqualify yourself from the whole scenario.

Your disqualification should be along the lines of "Not again, I just want to chill with you for a bit" thus showing her you choose her.


A story on Investment,

You want this car, It's the a new Porsche and it's your dream car that you just have to have.

So you get a second job and work everyday of your life for the next 5 years to buy it and you do, on your way home your drive up to your house and see in the driveway exactly the same car that you just bought.

You remember entering a contest a while back to win your dream car and it turns out you that you won.

Now you have two identical brand new Porsche's and cant afford to keep them both, so which do you sell?

Over a thousand students have been asked this question and not one has ever said the one you bought. Everyone would sell the one that you won.

Why?

Because you spent the last five years working hard for the first one, yes. But they're exactly the same car, there is no difference.

But we feel there is because we spent a lot of time, effort, energy, thought and emotion on the one that was bought. we invested in it. While the second one was given to us and has no meaning.

Dont be the free car ;0)

AFC Adam,

Dear adam,

I've began to apply it and already seeing some success, it's amazing how well students respond to £1 pints...

damn someone beat me to it!!! well if you ever get bored and miss home, PM me and you can use me as a human guinea pig...

thanks for the advice!!!

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Hey Adam,

I'm having a little problem with a girl i'm currently after.

We knew of each other from mutual friends, and we've recently been chatting on Facebook. Met her on a night out last Tuesday and got a very satisfying K-close and N-close. Been trying to arrange a second meeting, but this girl works in a local bar full time on a rota.

This is fine, she has free time within the week. Didn't manage to arrange something last week, but she came to a house party i threw on Saturday. We kissed again, and got a little 'touchy feely' in my room, no f-close as she doesn't sleep around. Fast forward to this week, and i've been trying to get her to get to know me better somewhere more casual.

She seems quite keen on this. The problems being her rota, and the fact she's telling me she hardly sees her friends... she says things are hectic at the moment and she's sorry at it seeming like she's messing me about and i can understand that, but i feel i could fit in somewhere? I'm not high on her list of priorities SPAM i'm guessing.

Thinking of freezing her out for a few days, we've been in touch pretty much every day for the past couple of weeks, so maybe this'll change the situation? I'm getting frustrated, even though she's given me reasonable reasons why something can't be set up.

Setting myself up for a fall aren't i?

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A little addition to my previous post. She had a fling with a friend of mine a while back, and she really started to like him. He didn't want commitment and they chose to remain friends.

Now after our little rendezvous my friend was pretty pissed off with her, and my friends for letting it happen (i didn't know he'd had dealings with her). He's consequently cut all ties with her.

Now i hear from my bro's GF tonight that the girl in question looked very down in the dumps, and the reason being my friends decision to cut ties. We haven't spoken for a few days either, mainly because i felt i was seeming a little needy by wanting to see her, and having to keep rearranging on her behalf.

I'm partly thinking she's being distant because of how my mate is approaching the situation. So i'm in a bit of a pickle!

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Thank you very much Adam for the advise!! I felt really happy when I finally read your reply. I'm putting everything into practice.

Bye from Argentina, Cococo

Thanks again Adam, it's a pleasure knowing that despite your soaring reputation you still manage to find the time to come on these forums and interact with us.

Going back to the same question. The thing is I'm having trouble figuring out how to get a girl to actively invest her time and at the same time relating it to the formula.

I did some thinking and I'm now wondering if Qualification really is something like making a bet. I haven't applied this theory yet but I think that if I adopted this mindset I'd be able to challenge girls, make them invest, then reward them. Plus it's an easier mindset to adopt then thinking "qualify her! qualify her!". Here's what I mean.

SCENARIO

Qualification/Challenge/Bet
"Are you smart? I bet I can do better than you in this quiz."
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V
*Girl invests time and does quiz*
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V
Reward
"Wow you're smarter than I thought. Come out on Sunday and I'll buy you dinner." or kino.
|
V
Attraction is created.


At least that's how I imagine it. That scenario makes the whole thing so much simpler for me to understand, it's less scientific and sounds logical to me. I was wondering at which stage of the formula does a girl get attracted to you. Is it C or Q? Or is it only after the whole process (C-R+Q+SE) that attraction is created (=A)? Does that mean I actually have to qualify her before seeing any IOIs? Basic theory from what I've gathered states that she must elicit IOIs before I qualify her. So I'm confused. God I hate maths and equations.

Dear AFC AdamLondon,
I'm really thankful to be able to ask you some questions although you don't have much time. In this community, it is not allowed to text message! I think that is wrong. We also have to wait and show confident. We never asked girls in AFC ways like "Do you want to go eat ice wth me?". The problem I see in this is, it is working. I'm 18 and I see a lot of guys just asking girls via text message if they want to date them or go to the movies. although the community tell us not do, it works!
Another thing I want to ask is, you and many good PUAs always say that the best approach is, when they don't feel we are hitting on them. I'm a VIP member on your page and I found something in your diary what is completely against what you said.

HB Denmark: You're cute
Adam: AHHHGHGHGHGHGH. NOOOO!!!!
Adam: I'm cute. Shit. That’s it, it’s all over.
HB Denmark: What?
Adam: I'm cute. I’m in the friend zone!
HB Denmark: I know, I know, guys hate girls calling them
cute. LOL.
Adam: Because it means the end. No sex. No relationship.
What follows is... the LJBF!!!!

I'm not sure therefore I want to ask you if it is not better to show some IOI's like "If you won't stop telling me these cool stories about, I will try to hit on you". I think this works after the girls qualified themselves but isn't that showing that we are hitting on them?

With kind regards,
Hank

hi adam
Ive read the game and alot of stuff on the net but im still afraid of making approaches. any advice?