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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:31 am 
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Hey Adam,

I number closed two chicks online at the same day. I'm pretty sure they expect the 3 day rule - so I went a head and texted something funny. There's another girl online which lives in florida - I just noticed this that she was into me but never said anything. However, long distance relationship's not what I'm about - had those before and they didn't work out. So, I compiled the information that I experienced with other girls - so one of the girls I got their number - I text. I'm jumping around here trying to make it short. The text conversation would go well, we would flirt and she told me she likes to shake her ass and after my text she hasn't responded. I didn't bother texting her after that because I've been occupied with some things.

My question is - most women get shitted on by alot of assholes, and in these cases would I have to gadge appropiately? Like Build Rapport and Trust more than other women? I'm sure they're into me because they wouldn't just give me their number - you know? I hate this whole thing waiting game - it get's me anxious and thinking I fucked up somewhere. Even though it's part of the game - I recognize that - but still, I don't know about you but maybe when you first started out - did you get a feeling that you were fucking up somewhere? Like I should've said this - I should this! You know?

Anyways, thanks for the reply!

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Dear Adam,

I've been struggling with Social Anxiety Disorder for a while. In case you are not familiar with the disorder, it's basically extensive self-conscious approach anxiety. It is more controlled now than before, by far, but I still have trouble being comfortable iso'ing a girl and breaking out of my shell into my inner PUA. What advice do you have for me?

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 7:54 pm 
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Hey Adam!

Just listened to your interview with Pickup Podcast and was impressed by how simple you broke down entourage game, and how fun it sounds!

I'm heading to Vegas (2 nights), and LA (4 nights), with 3 guy-friends and I realized the concepts you explained for setting up a large group of chicks to social proof you at a club would work great on vacation. I figure I'll chat up chicks and #-close them along the lines of "We're only here for about a week, but we're throwing a party at Bar X for all the new friends we've made on our trip, you guys should come, bring your friends" and then text 'em all up to come out. My friends'll have fun because we'll be like 4 guys to who-knows-how-many girls, and the people I invite will have fun because I'll be able to introduce them all to eachother at the club!

So a few questions for you:

1) As a sausage-fest of 4 guys clearly from out-of-town, last vacation we had pretty slim pickings with getting into bars in LA (they herded us to the Saddle Ranch haha in Vegas we paid a pimp $20 each to take us up to the Foundation Room which was totally worth it). I'd hate to invite a bunch of people out and have us stuck not getting in. Do you normally call ahead and over the phone go "Hey, I've got a party of 4 guys and 12 girls coming out tonight, I'd like to put my friends on a VIP list" and list off a bunch of names spelling 'em all one by one? That seems like it'd be akward, haha Would it be better to write up a list and cab it to the club early or E-Mail them the list?

2) Worst-case scenario is everyone I invite heading there at random times, and my boys and I arriving from our hotel room and getting denied entry (if there's no VIP list) because we don't have girls actually WITH us since they're all inside partying or haven't arrived yet haha Is it better to get everyone to meet up somewhere else and head over as a group? Like pick a free touristy bar everyone can easily get into and meet up for a beer, then hoof it over to the fancy one? I'd like to set it up as a dressy type thing where we can go to a swank club instead of hanging at an empty pub. Is there an easy way to arrange this? I'm thinking telling them "...so we can all roll up together and take over the club like rockstars" would make it more exciting.

3) For getting numbers, should I just txt them a few minutes after we go our separate ways "hey rockstar, save this # and text me your last name for the VIP list" I'll be at a convention with a bunch of booth babes for a few days who probably won't have their cell phones hidden in their bikinis, haha

That's it! Just wanted to say that I loved learning about your whole Metagame concept. The video explanation made me laugh because I made a similar one when I was first figuring out how to take over clubs. It's called "How To Lord a Club" on Youtube. Dots talking to other dots can explain ANYTHING haha Same idea of spreading social proof through the club. woah, waitasec, haha there's a video response to it with an interview of YOU. That's trippy, I didn't even realize it till just now

Thanks in advance, you have a great attitude selflessly helping everyone out like this! Your positivity is really inspiring!

- ninjasdf


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:03 am 
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Hi Adam,

I wanted to share this with you to get your ideas on handeling a situation like this better.

I got really frustrated last nite. I was with a bunch of friends and this girl. We all just met up during the day at a fare and in the eveing after dinner went bar hopping. She was responding well to me and one by one the guys in the group started bailing out because they were getting tired. It was just her and me now bar hopping. So at the last bar I went out for a quick smoke. By the time I was back there was this guys gaming the girl I was with. She seemed to respond to him and he was getting her drunk.

Anyways his approach is much like Me-hows approach. High energy and all that. He had a good game and I was getting out gamed. He tried to find out whether I was dating her to which she said we weren't. His wing tried to get me in a logical conversation to which I bailed out making a few jokes. They were kino escalating really quick. ( The girl was a little touchy feely because I too could Kino fast). Anyways...At one time I told her that it was a perfect pick up to which she said she knows it and that she got this one under control. She said its a pick up when you go home with them until then its ok. Well I was looking like an asshole in front of both these guys. It was like haha...we got your girl. Anyways It got really frustrating for me but I didn't show it. I tried to get the guy in a logical conversation but he ignored me.

I would like to ask you to give me ideas of keeping a PUA out of your game. How would anyone one keep Mystery or Me-how or Matador out of their game!! Also Neil Strauss once said he had developed a technique to spoil the game of celebrities who would try to get his dates.

BTW... She did not sleep with any of the guys, I kept on obstructing. But she was a wild cat. It is amazing to see how wild some quiet women can get !!!


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Hey Adam.

Im goin to Norway for a week on wednesday, do some fishing, skiing and see the beatiful nature. Anyway can you give me some advice on starting conversation with the beautiful women that are going to be skiing along side with me. I am an AFC but i believe that i can make some magic happen if i make a good first impresion.


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Hey Adam,

I'm still not awesome at this yet but I've experimented with a few things in college. I find that if I just minded my own business, I attract girls. I show indifference or act like I don't care but I make sure that I'm funny and/or interesting and talk to lots of people.

I've gotten a rose from a girl on Valentine's and another girl I know kept trying to game me into making out with her, but I've refrained so far because I wasn't interested. So at least I know I've got the attraction part down. I also regularly make fun of people so that's rapport break right there.

I'm aware I have to qualify and escalate next but it doesn't really come naturally to me so I'm not sure at which point do I begin these things in the interaction.

What I also want to know is if there's any general line you use to open random girls because while I feel I can hold my own frame when in conversation, it still bugs me that I can't approach strangers 100% of the time because I can't think of something to talk about. And as a result I have to go direct. I think direct's a good idea but I'd like to become good with the indirect methods first.

Lastly, I don't really have a lot of time in college these days but I'm doing what I can to improve myself. I find one of my biggest problems is that I won't kiss...basically escalate with girls that are not my type, even if they're hot. Is it a sacrifice I have to make to become good? I don't want to ruin my social circle that I've built.

Thanks for your time.


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Hey Adam! I started in reading this forum to try to get girls but after reading into inner game stuff i realised it makes me feel great about myself and a lot calmer than ever before. Do you know any really good inner game books or links? much appreciated, friend.


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dear adam,
wanna be a personal mentor to a just turnt 18 year old aspiring pua in camden, London?!?!?!? lol (I wish)... If your not up to the challenge thats cool =P (lol, just hoping a can goad you into it... jks)

on a serious note how would you break into social groups at such a late part of the college year, seems almost impossible now it's so cliquey...
ps could you like proper break it down to like days cos i just can't get it.... sorry to be such a pain in the arse...

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just an update on my sistuation im going to move to exeter to share a flat with my sister in 6 months when i turn 16 so ill be ina big city with alot more opertunitys and i will also be attending the college at exeter (this is if all goes to plan, which it should). just a positive note ive bought some new outfits so my style is a bit better and ive decided on a hair cut however i have to grow my hair first so thats all good. i still plan to move to london some day and ive decided on a realistic career goal of becoming a accountant or something simular, anyway hope you reply soon eager to hear from you.

EDIT: ok my sister has changed her mind about moving because she cant affored it unless she sells her car im really annoyed right now.

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ok moving is storted but ill have to pend 16 hours a week working. haha sorry for so many posts ill take up your whole thread by the end of this.

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Dear Ollie,

Thanks for the kind words, I appreciate it :)

Ok what I tell you might sound like generic life advice, but coming up to 30 years of life I've picked up a couple of life lessons here and there that I once overlooked but see the importance of now, If you follow these things, game will come by itself.

1 – The importance of family.
You're family is one of the most important connections of life itself, Cherish them for we will only ever really know their importance when their gone and it's too late. It might seem as though they don't understand you at times or they cant relate to you and your life the way you want but most often they know exactly what your going through and know how to help, so let them!

2 – The importance of friends
My friends are like my family, I love them dearly and would do anything to help them. I've also been burned by friends in the past, some of whom I thought I could trust with anything.
The people you surround yourself with are a direct reflection on you, know who you want to be and surround yourself with those kind of people. Ask yourself if you're proud of being friends with the people in your life, if your not then your not hanging out with the right people.

3 – The importance of education
I don't mean study (although it's a heck of a good idea) I mean educate yourself on the world, if you want in on any area of life, immerse yourself in it. Live it, breathe it, understand it. Know what your working towards and learn what you don't already know. This is a skill in itself and one I use every day of my life. You can never learn it all but I'm going to die trying.

4 – Reputation
A reputation is very important, not for what it gets you (not all that much) but how it affects you in terms of other peoples interactions with you, If you've got a bad repuation for things like fighting for instance, you'll repel the people who stay away from things of that nature (most people) and attract the people who like you for it (troublesome people)

By it's very nature the reputation filters out people who you'd like to make a connection with, think of it this way, “how do I want to be seen by the world?” once you know that, be that person. I want to be a grounded guy so I try to give people as much time as I possibly can, soon people will pick up on your patterns and associate that with you. It's how we work.

So ask yourself, do you like having a bad reputation? If not, change it by acting like the person you want to be.

These things will never be mastered, but the closer you are to getting them that way, the less you need game. Trust me.

Okay life lesson over, let's get into game.

First things first, forget online game for now, I would even suggest forgetting cold approaches in your situation too. Let's make a good base for you then we'll move on.

I want you to improve your social life, I'm setting you the task of making as many friends as possible. I want you to get to the stage where you walk around college and keep having to stop because everyone wants to talk to you.

Fist things first, as with all things in life you have to know what you want. what your ideal social life is and the kind of people you want to surround yourself with initially, What are your interests?

- music = musicians
-sports = athletes
-art = artists

Join an event for that involve this kind of crowd, if there isn't create one and have people come down, then add value to them all by being nice making them laugh, do more things like that, get more involved and soon you'll know everyone and you'll have more options in your life.

Hope this helps,
AFC Adam,


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Dear BehindTheFog,

Thank you very much mate, It's good to know people are getting something from my work :)

YES! Fashion is very important and quite overlooked by the community, good job in deciding to look into it.

Fashion is one of those things that is completely immersed in the now trend, it's all about timing and bring out the best of your body, Theres a million and one tips that can make a difference to a look that I have no clue over really :)

But what I can suggest are a couple of pointers to get you in the direction,

Look at the mannequins in fashionable stores, The store pays people (often lots of money) to dress them in whats cool and recent. You can see what look you think is good and reproduce something similar at somewhere cheaper.

The more expensive stores have shopping assistants who have studied the industry thoroughly. they'll know exactly what will suit you and what wont, the best part about it is they're free. So go talk to them.

And finally there are loads of fashion consultants around, some are very expensive while others are cheaper, I'm sure you'll be able to find a good deal out there with a bit off effort.

Hahaha, Actually, a friend of mine has just found out what larping (google it) is, he knew I went frequently in the UK and wants to go to an event, we're going to fight some orcs and wizards when we flies out to the US next month, so I'm still very much a geek and proud of it! ;)

AFC Adam,


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Dear Butterfield,

Thanks for the props mate :)

Oh wow, no idea.

It was about 30 sets a day, 7 days a week the first three months, then it cooled down a little after that. I would worry so much on the numbers, the importance is in pushing every set as far as you can and making it a lifestyle as opposed to the idea “running game”

on a side note, It took all of that to get me to a decent level, I had a huge learning curve and started off well below average, If I can do it anyone can! :D

AFC Adam,


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Dear Raident,

The keys to all parties and people in general is to add value, It's a big concept and has a billion different applications but in it's most simple from it all comes down to “Is this person enjoying my company?”

If they are then your adding value and doing it with more people will make you one of the coolest people there. Remember you don't need to be super bouncy high energy guy to be the life of the party, you just have to have people who want to talk to you.

Talk to everyone, make them laugh (tell stories or jokes) and find out about them. Then introduce people to others, make a mental note of the things different people have in common and use that.

“Hey Sarah, This is Tom. Did you know that he's a lawyer too, you have a lot in common.”

They will both love you for taking the social pressure off of their hands by introducing them to each other and remember you for being good with people (DHV) do that with everyone at the house party and you become the social connector.

Remember to just add value at parties, the rest is simple game :)

You need to get your friends to invest more, spend more time with them by setting up an event and getting them to come, the more time you spend with them the more you get to connect.

Hope I've helped,
AFC Adam


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Dear mikeyb10supra,

Honestly mate, the majority of people in the london clubbing scene are quite friendly, especially if your polite and not crapping anyone's style, The british are a very polite people who usually answer when asked a question, so don't worry about the negative responses to much.

Yes you do get the odd ice queen every now and then but their few and far between and even if you do come across one, the worst she'll do is give you a rude “no” at which point you know you don't want anything to do with her and wish her a good night with a smile.

You see, even if you don't get the desired reaction you can still avoid looking like you've gotten blown out, if you carry on smiling saying bye and moving onto another set, clubs are loud and everyone else is too busy worrying about what people think of them, they wont be able to tell you've gotten blown out.

Yep. After a social proof run, go back to the girls you liked and run game from the beginning. Remember to add value and you wont go wrong :)

AFC Adam,


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