to make things short i like this girl she likes animals a LOT...i dont believe in materialistic gifts but i want to show her i really care so i found this animal shelter # and bank account and will be donating some funds to them...i was thinking giving her an envelope with the bank receipt inside and telling her how flowers and perfumes and shoes and crap dont match up with the feeling of knowing that, because of a special persons birthday, some poor animals have food and shelter instead...cute i know

my question: how much should i dish out?

i was thinking 500$...i have cash its no big deal but do i come off as needy desperate? if i donate only 100$ i come off as a cheap asshole?? its her birthday i dont think its inappropriate like an out-of-the blue present so is it ok if i spend 500$? i live in serbia its like the average salary down here so it kind of is a big deal...but if she got it the right way i think she will be very touched by it...

she likes me but we have only spoken for a few seconds on a few occasions and i got invited to her birthday party in a few days by chance...on one side im positive she will love it but on the other i have a huge dillema about the amount of cash to be donated...if its a completely unselfish donation to a 3rd party does this even make me look desperate/needy?...i wish i knew her a bit better to avoid the possibility of the awkward moment of handing her an envelope...maybe ill stick a panda sticker on it to make it look more innocent and ill be "its not what you think" with a smile...

i dont know i just wanted to share the gift idea and get some opinions ive been over thinking this and at times it even seems like a bad idea now lol...

You don't know her? and you're spending how much???

And here I thought the office party limit of $20 to a gift was too much... And I know those people. Well. hahaha...

I wouldn't go over $100. If that's a lot in Serbia, maybe even less... If you spend too much on a gift (even a donation to a deserving place), you are going to come off as a show off...

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Wow man, that's crazy. I have relatives in Serbia, and I think that's what some of them make in a month... To put it in perspective, that's like someone in North America or Western Europe shelling out $5,000 for a birthday gift to a girl they hardly know!

I think buying her a gift that big is just as likely to scare the hell out of her or her friends as it is to impress her. I don't know what kind of income level you're at, but depending on what the typical gift price is among your friends, I'd keep it in that range. I actually think the concept of the gift is good, but it can still be fine if you cut down on the amount - BY A LOT. Also, try to avoid putting the bank receipt in, as that seems a little over-the-top. Most charities do up gift cards/certificates to tastefully show that a donation was made on the person's behalf. Include the donation card/certificate along with the message you were thinking of, plus if you want a bottle of wine or a stuffed animal (if you're okay with being cutesy) and you've still got a nice thoughtful gift that she'll dig.

Bro, firstly you need not go over the top man, infact you dont even need to tell her how much you're donating.
If you're going to go ahead with this animal shelter idea, you need to phone them and tell them your story, tell them you're donating on a friends behalf for her birthday and you want a certificate with her name on it... most charitys give you some sort of certificate or even just a letter of thanks for your generous donation... and the plus here is that they wont mention how much you've donated. You give her the certificate and tell her you made a small donation on her behalf as you know how much she loves animals. Weather you've got cash or not throwing it around isnt going to impress her... donate $50 or $100 finished.
I personally would gust buy her a normal gift (as you dont know her properly) and then see if I could arrange to volunteer for a weekend to help the animal shelter, tell her what you've decided to do and make it look as if you're doing it because you want to, not because you want to impress her... she'll obviously be impressed then you can say "why dont you tag along and help me" if the's that into animals she'll jump at the opportuntiy, next thing you know you'll be having sex in a dogs kennel... sexy!
Maybe you can consider doing all of the above, give her the certificate, spend another $50 on her for a small gift, and arrange to volunteer.
Give us some feedback mate.

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Draw a crappy picture of the two of you holding hands with crayons... 4 year old style. She likes animals you say? Throw in a rabbit, pony, etc. in the background.

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500$ is not that much to me but after reading your thoughts on this subject i will go down to 100$...ill round it out to 10.000 dinars this is approx 140$ its a nice round figure...people will buy her perfumes and stuff shes really hot and has tons of friends but after thinking this over some more i dont want to look too needy in any way even if its for a good cause...it does kind of make me look as if im expecting something in return (and i am ) if i donate a lot...

You've answered your own question.

If have found, through trial and error, that expensive gifts have done nothing for me in terms of building attraction with a girl.

A similar analogy applies to buying a girl a drink. Most females will refuse to accept it because she thinks the guy will want something back (unless she's into that guy of course.)

~It's a classic case of trying too hard, and listening to that little AFC voice in the back of your head saying, 'buy her affection, she'll thinks it's sweet.'~

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Lol I have an even better idea

Have them give you the letter/certificate and as long as it doesnt say how much you donated you could give like 20 bucks and she won't know the difference
This way it'll look like you weren't trying to show off and were being thoughtful instead

You barely know her and wouldn't it be better if she started to like you for you instead of how much money you have

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Personally, I'd buy nothing. Maybe give her a card, or make her biscuits if I felt extra nice.

And if I had $500 to spend, it'd be on a bootcamp, not some charity I didn't believe in to try to get in a girls pants.