Ok im really gathering up all the courage i have and this is gonna hurt my ego like hell but f**k it i wanna improve so im gonna go ahead and do it anyways

Please if any of you guys can answer any of these questions your help would be really appreciated.

1)How do u get over a one-itis and how to get the fact that she was in love with some other guy and ur still in love with her out of ur friggin mind.

2)If your 20 and never been out on a date and still a virgin is all hope lost?

3)Is it wrong to study abt pick-up if ur just interested in finding the "right" girl and wanting to have a monogamous relationship?

4)Whats the difference between optimism and wishful thinking?

5)Which self-help guru's should i refer to?i mean ones that really help and not talk abt "manifestations" and mystical mumbo jumbo that only appeal to the average lazy mans mind (im into eckheart tolle right now and i find his work really helpful)

6)Is note taking important while watching or reading seduction material?if so what exactly to note down?and how to effectively use cheat sheets?

7)I've heard that people who study too much of NLP tend to get a bit unrealistically confident and are unable to calibrate?Whats that supposed to mean?

8)How to prevent pick-up from affecting your day-today schedule?I mean how much priority should i give to studying these things?

9)Which material would you guys recommend for a newbie like me?
(i already have the books millers mating mind,sperm wars,the game,the selfish gene,robert greene's 40 Laws of powers,nancy friday books,david material,mystery method material and RSD material).

10)If i want "natural game",is it better to test your skills in an another area so that if you get rejected your friends wont find out abt it and thus u avoid embarrassment?

11)Where to f-close a girl if your still living with your folks?(i know this one really sucks)

12)Is learning verbal warfare necessary in order to disarm AMOG's?And how do i disarm him without inadvertently qualifying for him or "reacting" to his frame and thus come out as lower value.

Thank you guys in advance

I'm not going to answer all those questions but I'll answer most of them in what I'm about to type.

First of all, you can learn all you want and are welcome to hang around the forum doing just that. There is nothing wrong with it, and lots of guys do it. BUT.

It is unrealistic to think that you can just study and drill yourself, then without any practice incorporate all these skills you learned at the right moment to get a particular girl.

There is nothing wrong with waiting for the right girl. I was waiting for mine, and I think I might have found her. Still, you are going to need to PRACTICE frequently with women regardless of which guru or style you choice.

There are advantages to all types of game including natural, indirect, NLP, etc. Each have their own methods for dealing with certain situations like One Itis, AMOG, etc. Find one you like that fits your personality best and use it.

Bottom line is anyone can do this stuff. THere is no such thing as hope is lost unless you give up on yourself. Then no one can help you. You can get f-closes in a night club, in a car, in an alley, and many other places that don't include a house. Whatever you want from this is out there, but it's going to take work to get there. THERE IS NO MAGIC PILL AND YOU'RE A BAD ASS PUA.

GOOD LUCK IN YOUR JOURNEY AND WELCOME

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1)How do u get over a one-itis and how to get the fact that she was in love with some other guy and ur still in love with her out of ur friggin mind.
A.) --- Get out more and practice on other women ... also DO NOT SEE HER, DO NOT HAVE CONTACT WITH HER, DO NOT LOOK AT PICTURES OF HER, REMOVE HER FROM YOUR FACEBOOK/MYSPACE ...
--- Keep her Out of Site and eventually She will be out of mind --- Its not going to be easy and every part of you is going to be trying to rush back into contact with her ... BUT YOU MUST RESIST!!! The saying is something like ... to Get over a One-itis Sleep with 10 other women .

2)If your 20 and never been out on a date and still a virgin is all hope lost?
A.) --- This is going to hurt my pride as well ... I LOST MY VIRGINITY AT 23 I had a couple opportunities and I pussed out ... I also had wisky dick once that prevented me .... I had gone almost all the way with a couple of girls ... but I siked myself out.
Nevertheless ... you are not lost ... You are in the right place to fix this problem and you are taking the right steps ... Keep it Going and work on it ... Just make sure to practice what you read and APPROACH APPROACH APPROACH !!!

3)Is it wrong to study abt pick-up if ur just interested in finding the "right" girl and wanting to have a monogamous relationship?

A.) NO it is not wrong to study pick-up to find the right girl ... just like it is not wrong to study pick up just to sleep with multiple women ... to each their own. Love is a basic human need. If you cannot find it by your own means their is nothing wrong with getting help elsewhere. There is not just ONE reason to study pick-up ... there are many.

4)Whats the difference between optimism and wishful thinking?

A.) Optimism is BELIEVING things will get better, wishful thinking is HOPING they will. So believe my Brother ... Believe

5)Which self-help guru's should i refer to?i mean ones that really help and not talk abt "manifestations" and mystical mumbo jumbo that only appeal to the average lazy mans mind (im into eckheart tolle right now and i find his work really helpful)

A.) Not 100% sure what you mean ... But what I would recommend is getting the "Demonic Confidence" audio course and doing that and actually following it and doing the exercises. Obviously the most important thing is to actually apply it. All the information in the world will not do anything for you if you are not willing to Apply and Practice it.
Also ... for PUA stuff I have gone threw A LOT of material and read so much crap and the one thing I would recommend is getting "STYLE's Annihiliation-Method" this is the best I have seem. WHY??? because it has audio stuff, it has Work book stuff, and it has video stuff. Style is a great teacher and has studied under the best guru's in the world. What I most like about the Annihiliation-Method package is the video's because not only does he tell you basically what to say ... you can also see how he presents it ... thus giving you the ability to look at things like Tone, Posture, and body language. Basically those Two things have helped me A LOT ... ( Mind you I am still newish to The Game ... But those have done wonders for me in my short stint)

6)Is note taking important while watching or reading seduction material?if so what exactly to note down?and how to effectively use cheat sheets?

A.) I Personally do not note take because I can always reference back to the video or W/E if I need too. But a cheat sheet is nice to have in the field just to remind you of the material you have at your disposal. A cheat sheet should not be very in-depth. For instance it should not have the entire Cube method or a opener on it written word for word. It should say things like
The Cube
The Best Friends Test
Jealous Girlfriend opener
C vs U smile
.... YADA YADA ...
It is your responsibility to memorize the material and how to perform it effectively ... the cheat sheet is just to remind you that you have it.

7)I've heard that people who study too much of NLP tend to get a bit unrealistically confident and are unable to calibrate?Whats that supposed to mean?

A.) ... Not 100% sure... but Style touches into calibration in the "Annihilation Method". But basically what I think it means is because they believe that their methods are a 100% effective and fail proof they get cocky and think that they do not have to pay attention to the details or try to gage where the conversation is headed. Calibration basically means that you basically understand how the set is taking the information and how they are responding to it and if it is heading in the right direction or if you need to change something up.

8)How to prevent pick-up from affecting your day-today schedule?I mean how much priority should i give to studying these things?

A.) Do not get caught up in stuff. The problem a lot of people have is that they are looking for all the answers in books ( i made this mistake big time ) ... But in reality 80% of it is just doing field work. Make sure you get out 3+ times a week and practice ... That is the biggest thing ... You do not need to read and study books and go to seminars and take notes and What not .... You need to get out in the Field ... Practice ... take the feedback you get ... and than think about where you went wrong and what you could have done differently. THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO. So go ahead and learn a couple openers to practice ... but after that GO GET FEEDBACK !!! This Should be nothing more than a Glorified Hobby!!

9)Which material would you guys recommend for a newbie like me?
(i already have the books millers mating mind,sperm wars,the game,the selfish gene,robert greene's 40 Laws of powers,nancy friday books,david material,mystery method material and RSD material).

A.) Get Demonic Confidence and Practice it ... and get Styles Annihilation-Method Set ... and Then just Practice .... the answers are not in the Books my friend ... they are in the Field !!! ... ( Trust me i made the same mistake you are making now)

10)If i want "natural game",is it better to test your skills in an another area so that if you get rejected your friends wont find out abt it and thus u avoid embarrassment?

A.) When I started I used to practice away from places I frequently visited. I would reccommend doing this is you are worried about what your friends think. You do not have to do it for long ... just for a little while till you get used to approaching, remove some of your AA, and get feedback. ALSO Where do you live ??? I would post on here and look around for a wing/mentor who can kinda guide you and go out with him. You friends are going to try to hold you back 99% of the time because if you get better you are going to be threatening them and there game. ITS SAD BUT TRUE. They need you to be shitty to make themselves look good and so that they feel better about themselves. TRUE STORY

11)Where to f-close a girl if your still living with your folks?(i know this one really sucks)

A.) First off I think you are getting ahead of yourself ....STYLE would tell you to Work in steps ... First practice Approaching ....Once you feel comfortable with that .. Than Move on to Approaching and DHV .... Than move on Approaching, DHV, and Escalation ..... You get the idea ... Practice one thing at a time and than build on it. BUT ... I am 23 and live at home (because of the economy, I can affoard to move out on my own, but I am helping to support my family) ... If you do not feel comfortable bringing her home A.) go to her house or B.) there is always the hotel room. The Hotel Room is risky because it is very straight forward and you are basically saying " I am going to Fuck you Tonight" .... This is where Calibration comes into play ... you need to be able to judge what the girl would think about each of these options, and you do this by learning to notice things in the conversation and her reactions to your kino and escalation.


12)Is learning verbal warfare necessary in order to disarm AMOG's?And how do i disarm him without inadvertently qualifying for him or "reacting" to his frame and thus come out as lower value.

A.) Verbal Warfare is not always necessary ... If you can it is best to befriend the AMOG before you work on your target. Include him and make him feel good about himself and most times he will not try to Cock Block you. Also know if you do get into a Verbal Warfare with him and he is your targets friend ... you are going to lose her because she is going to side with her friend. AMOG'ing is difficult and risky ... and this also takes some Calibration ... you have to be able to gage what the guys reaction is going to be and than proceed that way. But I think you are getting ahead of yourself again .... Just work on Approaching for now and getting Feedback

Once Again ... All the Information in the World will do nothing for you if you do not apply it.

Hope this helps!

3)Is it wrong to study abt pick-up if ur just interested in finding the "right" girl and wanting to have a monogamous relationship?

I don't think so at all. Learning how to create attraction with women, build your own self-confidence, etc...I don't see anything wrong with studying the material. Women read books and articles on how to snag and keep Mr. Right, don't they? There's no reason you shouldn't learn, IMO. If you're after a long-term relationship, learn to be the Mr. Right they all want to snag and keep.

I'll say this though...it's in your best interest to date multiple girls, not just go after that "special one". You'll have more women to choose from for an LTR, and you'll have fun until you find her. Not only will that make you happier, it prequalifies you to the one's you're not dating (yet). When a woman sees you with another woman, you are already pre-selected...if you're good enough for one, you must be good enough for the other. Mystery says in MM that one of the best things you could possibly do is walk in somewhere dressed like a pimp with a girl on each arm!

Something Style says that I agree with..."with great power comes great responsibility"...you should try to leave any girl better off than she was before you found her, or at least no worse. And that's true whether we're talking about only getting laid or a long-term relationship. Unfortunately, it doesn't often happen with long-term relationships, but you can have a clear conscious by at least making that your goal. Girls DO want to get laid too, believe it or not.

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Divorced dude having a good life.

Hey wut's up I'm going to take a stab at answering your questions

1)Getting over a girl is not as hard as you think once you meet others, for now; something that helped me was to pretend that shes dead(sounds crazy but try it). Try not to think about her at all but for starters do not think about the good stuff you guys did.

2)Lol hope is never lost especially at 20 dude you have sooooo much time left. There's guys that started this at a lot older and are awesome at it now. There's no such thing as too late.

3)No way is it wrong. Just cause they told you that if you don't fuck a lot of chicks your an afc. Do what you like and just be the best person you can so when you find her you'll keep her and she like you for who you are and not for what someone else told you to say.

4)Deep Thinkhers answer has this covered

5)I don't have an answer for you here cause I don't really follow a "guru".
Others could probably help you here. BTW I haven't paid for anything got everything from the forums lol

6)Its not necessary cause most of the good stuff sticks usually and note taking would be super helpful just like it helps you remember stuff in school. Just write the good material with out writing a book

7)Don't know much here

8)Id say practice when you can and throw into everyday interactions just for some free practice. Always remember that theres a bigger picture and more to life than pua.

9)Forums and anything you can get your hands on honestly. Just read anything and everything and find what you like best.

10)For here Id say fuck it feel embarrassed don't be afraid of it and if it is a big deal then yup just practice else where; so you can focus on your game and not your friends

11) It doesn't suck dude. Anywhere lol. Seriously though if their horny enough she'll be down as long as its not in the middle of the street(there are special cases) ideas her car, your car, her house, your house (when your parents are gone)

12)Nah you shouldn't learn how to attack people verbally. Just be yourself and try too make them your friend

There you go just ask if you want me too clarify anything or if you want to ask another question lol.

Good Luck

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@JSmooth:
Yeah dude your right,but its not that i belong to the magic pill mentality i just wanted some insights on these problems that i was having and yes thanks for the advise

@DeepThinkher:
Dude!!!!you single handedly solved most of my problems man lol *goes and gives hug* ,i really had some epiphany's from that post of yours and yes your right theory has its place but if i dont apply it then all im doing is useless mental masturbation
Oh and by that self-help thing i mean that there are a lot off gurus out there who dont know shit abt what they're talking abt and i didnt want to end up with the material of someone who gives fake advise if u know what i mean,anyways im getting that demonic confidence thing that u told me abt...
thanks again man



@Gruuve:
Yeah u got a point there bro,women spend tons of hours reading romantic novels watching romantic flicks going through cosmopolitan and other magzines and do a shitload of things to improve themselves and keep their Mr.Right in control,so i guess its only natural that self-improvement for us as men is nothing to be ashamed of.

@Pool Shark:
Ha ha good one thinking that she's dead hmm might work actually,to tell u the truth the real reason i had'nt bee "dating" anyone uptill now was cos i believed that "fate" will do the job for me and thus when i met this girl and when we got along really well i thought i had found the right one only to find that i had been pushed into the LJBF category ,and trust me man getting over her was really painful(im still not "completely" over her),i remember i was in tears when i had to remove her from my friends list i got so pissed of that she's not even replying to my messages or my sms's and such a harsh SPAM for what?just because i asked her out?I gave her all the movies and anime's she wanted thats how we became friends in the first place(yeah i know i used to be a supplicating chode back then but thats cos i didnt know how attraction worked),actually i am a cocky/funny guy in general and i did portray higher status than her and im pretty sure that unconsciously i might have created a considerable level of attraction and sexual tension between us but i made the horrid mistake of going old school and "asking her out" in a completely desperate and needy way....i guess to be honest im the one to be blamed.
But thanks for answering my question dude really appreciate it

Your Welcome! "High five back" Glad I could help.

Cool to see I helped some

Good Luck man

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