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PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:36 pm 
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i think every pick up artist had it before... he wasn't honest to a girl about his feelings.... she fell in love.... and he broke her heart...

I broke up with my girl a couple of months ago and i started dating other girls but I don't feel like having a new relationship at this moment. In the past i had several times that i wasn't honest to her about my feelings: i wanted to have sex with her, and only sex, but i didn't make that clear. i ended up in bed with them and after that it always sucked because i had to find a way to make it clear that is was only for one time.. it made me feel guilty and stupid.
This was because i was a newbie, there was some kind of desparation in my acts and i'm way above that level right now.
I talked about it with a friend an we made a deal that in the future i will be honest every single time i meet a new girl... if i'm not, i have to give him some aviator ray ban glasses..
from that moment i always tell a girl as soon as any tension appears, that i can't be in a serious relationship and i found out that it really turns them on... it even makes things easier... they feel you are honest and most of the time they wanna have sex with you even more.. i love it!

I think being clear is a thing for gentlemens, little boys break hearts because they act stupid and follow their dick.. just like desperately try to date women with a boyfriend, it's a thing you just don't do..

The thing is... there must be several ways/tactics to make it clear to a woman.. so i was wondering how everybody else deals with it..?


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Wow, I wish more guys would post stuff like this on the forum. Seriously, so many guys think they have to be deceptive about wanting a one time thing, or friends with benefits, etc. They think they have to string the girl along with the idea of a "relationship."

The truth is by just being upfront and honest you can typically have what you want. Still, you have to be willing to loose her and that's part of being "unaffected" and "non-needy" for real. The idea that "This is the type of relationship I want, you can fill the slot, or I'll find someone else." Most women will tend to "fill the slot" in your life.

As far as what I say. I wait until comfort. If you're using the Mystery Method it's around C1 right as I'm about to kiss and escalate things. I get her worked up with kino and say to her, "Look I need to be honest. I'm not looking for a relationship right now. I am dating a few girls, enjoying life, until I find the "one." And when I do then I'll be with her."

When you put it that way there are very few girls who aren't going to be understanding. Most will go with it. Look at what we're demonstrating here though. We're demonstrating pre-selection, and non-needy behaviour in that statement too. These are attraction switches, it's hard for her to say No. Plus who isn't waiting for the "one."

You being genuine and nice like this its really difficult for someone to just be like "F-ck Off!" That just doesn't play here. It's unlikely but possible she'll tell you know but you have the traits to get another girl anyways.

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Like Ross Jeffries suggests, you have to leave her better off than you found her. So why decieve and hurt her?

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Like Ross Jeffries suggests, you have to leave her better off than you found her. So why decieve and hurt her?
heard this so many times and its so true.
even mysterys fake it till you make it gambit didnt ring true with me, so i never use that, blatantly chatting rubbish made me feel bad, honesty is one of the things that has improved my game and general quality of life

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:43 pm 
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One of the most worth while posts I've ever read and so true.
Here's my field report on this point exactly, if you're not interested please dont subject yourself.

A few years ago a littly lady (HB8) invited me on facebook and I stared seeing she's always down and out as her man and her broke up and it was pretty horrible. I started helping her work on her self confidence with absolutely no intention of picking her up. Acting like an AFC but showing no interest, even going as far as telling her she should meet my (nonexsistant) girlfriend so that she had another girl, a stranger who she can talk to.
She met my friend and they became good friends and eventually we told her that my friend and I arent dating, I just wanted to help and be there for her without her thinking I was trying to use her or fuck her. Which was genuinely my intention. I always keep my options open, even if I make a new female friend- she'll always have other friends for me to sarge and when its your friends friends the game is ridiculously easy.

Anyway, one weekend we all went away together and had a real good time and she confessed on the way there that she's really starting to fall for me, I escalated kino and was making small moves by the end of that day and when I woke up I had to tell her that I'm really not interested in being anything more than friend bacuse she's already told me she way past that. We kept our distance for the whole day but by that night she was trying again. I told her she's an incredible girl and I'd love to but it would only be a bit of fun, no strings attached.
We didnt have sex that night but the next day as we woke up, she fucked the living shit out of me! I told her again and she said she's fine with it and that she didnt figure herself would ever be a fuck buddy with a cheeky grin.

She's now one of my most loyal wingmen as I am to her, there's no jealousy and no resentment. She's helped me get laid at least half a dozen times and is one of my closest friends.

If the whole thing turned out that me and her become strictly friends I would have still got laid with the help of her being my wing so I had nothing to lose.
Plus now if we go out and there's no new tail around, we got eachother to whet eachothers sexual appetite.

I'm a whore I know, but I also fancy myself a gentleman.

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