I've tried now for a couple of weeks to convice my friends who are all for the large part warcraft playing nerds to come out with me; but to no prevail, thus I've started venturing out on my own.
I try to stay cool and just relax instead of walking around like a social predator, I'll talk to a few groups but never get the feeling of acceptance by them and so eject after 5 mins. I then feel my energy levels drain, like I can't keep up this positive friendly vibe and so feel like leaving after only 30 mins or so.

How do you talk to the groups? do you have a conversation or just ask lots of questions?

well its sorta weird opening a group, some dude just coming in when your having a good time asking some opinion ( day game of course ). Well Casanova only opened singles, he went direct with it, bang on talked about her beauty and such. Of course he had rock solid confidence, try opening singles in day time, i've did that lots, groups work but i'm no master yet, so there abit difficult for me.

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Good man its good to get out there. That's a great start, are you serious that these lads would rather warcraft to the max instead of going out sarging?

Sarging is a much better game in my book.

I'm not one to give life pointers or anything, you need to look at this objectively the fact of the matter is your friends play warcraft so more than likely you are into that sort of thing yourself (nothing wrong with that, though everything in moderation).

I don't know much about you but you may need to start some new activities. The way I look at it is this, what girl is going to be interested in you defeating trolls on a computer game?

Anyway if you take up some activity (e.g. martial arts, rock climbing or something that interests you and gets you out of the house) and encourage your friends to do the same then I am sure they will discover a new found love for the real world and real things.

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hey dude dont get discouraged. Theres nothing wrong going out by yourself. One thing i can suggest is to try looking for a wing or someone in your city that is having the same problem as you are and meet up with them. Use the meet up and wing section. Also from my own experience i wouldnt suggest trying to get your buddies in on the game cause ive learned that they probably wont be very accepting. Instead just show them by example.

My best pickups were in clubs/bars when I went solo. I don't open large groups, just singles and groups of 2 girls. Sometimes more, but never a group with dudes in it or never a group who are having good time socializing in their own group.

Lately, I've been going out solo sarging, though I will on occassion have a wing or two with me. Its funny, cause I used to be in the exact same position as you when I first started out with this and now I'm pretty much what you would call Recovering AFC. I still get rejected out of sets but the difference now is that I"m more accepting of it because I've realized that the more you fail, the more you need to keep trying. That being said, I've also tasted some success and thats only a sign that I'm gonna continue to keep getting better at this because this is all worth it. All I'm telling you is that you should keep doing this all by yourself because it will be worth it to you in the end. I"m not saying do it by yourself exclusively, just do it and eventually start doing it with others who are more into this than your actual friends ever will be. I'm telling you it does get better, it just doesn't happen overnight and you have to work for it.

First off thanks for the really supportive responses (even though some were a tad conflicting lol). Jonahjones you are correct in saying that as my friends are computer game playing nerds, so am I. I do go to the gym 4 times a week at the moment, but it's not at all a social experience.

I do have 1 friend that I mentioned PU to and supprisingly he said he'd done some research himself and was on DA's email list. We just don't get to hang out much as he works long hour for macquarie bank whilst I'm still at uni. I think I will take the chance and just openly introduce the rest of my friends to this world.

I've been mainly approaching groups as for some reason in my mind I've rationalized that I'm less likely to get blown off or take it as personally if I get rejected. Looking for 1 or 2 sets that aren't with guys or currently having a blast socializing sounds like a more solid approach.

@madals- I try not to just fire questions, but find typically they don't want to invest much into the conversation. Maybe I should work on a couple of DHV stories I can roll into from my openers; as in an effort to not completely stall I do find myself asking AFC questions such as- Where are you all from? what do you do for a living etc etc?..

I know how solo sarging becomes boring. You need to find an exciting set. Just lose that approach anxiety, pull your game, and remember this is just to have fun. However, you may want to aim on a one or three set or more because you have to engage the obstacle which can be annoying w/o a wing.

Im too scared to solo sarge. I can go away from my group to pick up girls. But to go to the club with noone scares me. Because if you fail a set you have nowhere to go back and stand without looking like a loner. So i wouldn't know what to do after getting rejected by a set other then the bathroom or different part of the club.

However, if im in a group i can go hit on a set, walk back to my group, go hit on another set. Plus if they ask who im with i can tell them im with people.

I would love to be able to solo sarge though but the idea of standing around inbetween sets seems creepy.

Dude . . . Believe me this!

You are so freaking close and you don't even know it. Read all the posts here about guys being afraid to even make initial contact. If you can do this alone, all you need is to refine your routines and make the next one last 6 minutes. Then 7 minutes. Then 10 minutes. Then get those numbers. Get those dates.

Don't just mentally blow off the previous sessions. Remember what was said. Remember what you said. Think about how you could have continued the conversation. Think about how you could have escalated towards a request for another meeting . . .

These days, I'm so tied up with crap. I LOVE it when I have the opportunity to go to a crowded club by myself just so that I can have FUN on my own without having to worry about all these other people . . .

Anyhow, all you need is some more research on routines and what makes them work. This is really the most fun point during the progression of your game. "It's possible . . ."