Well, I've watched the first DVD of Ultimate Natural Game... And it's AWESOME.

Before this I knew basically nothing about kino - and within the first half hour, or so, I learn that it's soo simple! I basically knew that I could escalate, and to be animated. The methods are so subtle, but they're fucking awesome! I tried them out today and they absolutely work! I escalated the contact instantly with almost every single girl I talked to. Kino openers are something I didn't even know existed, and I've applied them like 10-20 times today... they're a lot better than tapping someone on the back, or yelling in their ear. Works for day game, but I'm only a teenager and can't get into clubs... So no night game for me In a few years I'll get in legally.

The kinds of openers are pretty original, and have a different format from what I've seen - but pretty similar. Not similar enough to be noticed that they read The Game or MM, but similar enough to take all the best points and make them better.

My day game's gotten a lot better, and tomorrow I'm going out again to test these out like, 100 more times. It turns out it's very easy for me to open women who are in their 20's, too. I didn't really see that coming... Considering I'm 15. (Because I look older?)

High School Game's been improved immensely. Day Game's been much improved. Night Game's still pretty mysterious... But when I have gone out I was pretty damn good. I wonder what kind of game they'd call when it was Twilight - would it be its own kind of game, or be judged on the time?

I'm still trying to digest and test everything out so it's stuck in my mind, and habitual. Probably just go out and try everything a few times. Then when I go home, watch DVD 2, test it the next day. And so on.

Can't wait to see what's next... I just can't believe I showed such a dramatic improvement in my interactions just from that first one - first time in a while since I've been surprised.

I agree, its brilliant. I'm not all the way through yet, but DVD2 (with Adam Lyons) is fantastic. I'll probably keep going back to all these DVDs as I improve.

Also, Day Game is my focus as well, as I've only just turned 18 and most of my mates are still 17, but I'm going clubbing for the first time next week.

Um. Where did I write that I did not watch all the DVDs? I did watch ALL of it.

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE GOOD READING COMPREHENSION, DO NOT REPLY TO A MESSAGE WITH YOUR OWN MADE UP THOUGHTS ON WHAT OTHERS SAID. YOU ARE PUTTING WORDS INTO OTHER PEOPLE'S MOUTHS.

I have read other reviews on this site about Gambler and his products as well. It's no secret that the reviews for his products are more favorable on this site than on other PUA related forums.

I find it funny how you're so defensive about something someone else's products. I wasn't criticizing you. But I guess idol-worship makes one like that.

There is some absolute gold in there, I especially like Gamblers bits about non-verbal communication and forcing IOIs. The price tag is a little high considering the sound quality and production costs, but there is a lot to be learnt from it and it was a nice introduction to what AFC Adam is all about (entourage game).

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Maybe you'd like to actually put some of YOUR OWN MONEY on the table before dictating to others what they should write in Bootcamp reviews.
First of all nothing in PUATraining is original- as said I could reference in precise details where PUAtraining gets it materials (PUA or otherwise) that it passes off as its own before berating the company they got it from-which explained the details more clearly.

Through Private Messaging I agree with a lot of the guys; that some people at PUATraining are not in a postion to be teaching guys how to attract, date and have relationships with women.
Their infield videos do not prove anything. I could be filmed walking up to a chick saying some random shit, be filmed and hey presto- Im an approach guru.

Personally I got some very obvious feedback doing my One to One which in hindsight wasnt worth the money.

As a final note check out this PUATraining video. I can hold a conversation way better than that buffoon
http://articles.venusianskills.com/arti ... Page1.html

Wtf are you talking about? I was agreeing with you. Are serious...
I would never go to PUATraining bootcamp unless it was by Adam
(Which mine would be cuz I from the states, YAY!) haha. anyways.

What was the point of your post, really?? Bcuz I used the bootcamp
thread to show that everyone isnt biased toward PUATraining. If anything
you should be quoting the other guy that think this forum would
never post bad things about gambler bcuz we think hes gods gift.....

Ok. Since you seem to need a lesson in reading comprehension, I will spell this out for you, ok little boy? Now pay attention, and you may actually learn something instead of spouting your own ignorance all over this thread.

Read the original post I wrote. Here is what the previous quote means: 1) I'm trying to be fair and honest. 2) I reviewed the DVDs and did not think the product was very good. 3) It was not worth what Gambler was charging. 4) I returned it for a refund.

Now, please, please, PLEASE point out my own ignorance and stupidity by telling me where I stated as YOU KEEP BLATHERING ABOUT that I did not watch the DVDs and that I'm posting false reviews as you are accusing me of. Hmm? Where?

Oh? What's that? You have no snappy comeback about how awesome you are and how stupid everyone else is? Aw. Too bad little boy. Go back to your mom's basement and post a reply avenging what little dignity you have left in you.

It's no wonder that you're on these boards. You definitely NEED help in socializing with the rest of the world. Too bad you're seeking it in the wrong place. You need professional medical help.

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I still think that Ultimate Natural Game is good.

I'm selling my ultimate natural game set on eBay if anyone is interested. I'm also SPAM some freebies with it as well, PM me for details.

Not worth the price. I'll torrent it before I pay for it.

You just broke forum rule #3

This is your little warning. Read the rules.

How much is it?

i have quite a colection of pua cd, dvd, e-books in these many years of being in the game and enjoying the advances the community have made. imo ultimate natural game is full of golden advise, and gives examples one can learn from and act as if. vin dicarlo is the other pua who gives good dvd products that are worth the money spent. the price is peanuts compared to what it would be the total cost to get visual training at a boot camp. i am not getting anything for my comments just the satisfaction to give praise where it is deserved.