Little story here:

I went into class the other day hunger over as ever (our uni hand just won the national football championship) so went to a seat feeling wild anti social. So I am sitting there and a hb4 + hb9 (never seen before) come over and sat on the pew next to me. I know the hb4 socially and dabbled in some polite conversation about the how boring the lecturer was etc but it was clear to see I was too fecked to converse properly.

Didn't really say much to both girls until the end of the lesson when I said I was going to the library. The next thing I know HB9 is saying she is coming along with me.. so we go to the library don't get much done. Then she offers to drive me home.

On the way home she starts going on about a mouse in her house and how afraid of it she is. As I am starting to perk up abit I tell her I'll go round and have a look for it, set a mouse trap whatever. Get there do the usual tapping of the walls and lifting of the couches needless to say I don't find a mouse.

Next thing I know she's asking me to stay for a "dvd or something". I say I have some stuff to do but I'll be back later.

Anyway get back we're watching the film and she starts telling me melon makes love juices taste sweeter whilst shovelling melon in my mouth. The room starts getting a little cold downstairs.. so she says come up to my bedroom it is warmer...

By this stage I am fully perked up..

Can't believe this! This has to be an invitation for sex?!..

But wait I haven't gamed this girl in any way?

Back to the story: in her room.. Video over.. end up talking for hours and get on great identify with each other about loads of things, do a little kino and eventually kiss close.

Stay the night.. but no sex!!! She didn't actively discourage it neither did she actively encourage it.

Wtf? I know its not gaming but Where did I go wrong? Did I get too pally? Should I have actively disagreed on something with her?

This situation has never happened to me before!!

Does anyone have any pointers?

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Satisfaction is the death of desire.

yeah, mice don't live under couches bro

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I doubt she was lying about the mouse, cos she wouldn't know that you were gonna offer to eradicate the furry fucker for her. However, if she didn't like you then she wouldn't take you up on the offer. That's IOI number one.
That's about as close to "lets fuck" as you'll ever hear. Massive IOI yet again.
No fucking comment required.
You should be in CSI.
You don't always have to. It's called "she likes you".
What in the name of tapdancing fuck are you talking for?

She's telling you about how fruit makes your jizz taste sweeter. On top of this, she is feeding you melon. She has taken you to her bedroom to watch the rest of the movie. What else do you want, a neon sign saying "fuck me" with a big arrow pointing to her vagina?
Didn't encourage it my arse. See previous statement.

Yes, you did get too pally. She gave you (many) blatant signs that she wanted sex, and you sat and talked to her for hours. You kissed her. I can't even begin to fathom how you didn't have sex in this situation. A simple, "lets see if that melon did the trick" the second you got into the bedroom and you would have been fucking each other for hours instead of talking and sharing what I can only imagine to be the most awkward kiss in history.

You have escalation anxiety. Bigtime. I suggest reading Sinn's game acceleration doctrine, he talks about this quite a bit in there.

Sound.. I like this constructive criticism. I knew when I was writing this it seemed so obvious and you have just lain it out in black and white!! lol

I'm not going to lie I usually go though this stage (without problem) drunk, so felt pretty pathetic, alright!

I am going to read a bit about escalation anxiety.. Cheers.

I only hope she isn't too far gone. I might be able to save it.

Jesus I am as thick as a ditch.

Oh I wasn't implying she was lying about the mouse, I am just not the most subtle mouse hunter..

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Firstly, let me just say that your post was painful and sad for me to read.

BUT.....

I am a firm believer that PUAs should encourage each other.

I hope you have learned from this experience. Not sure how actively you study but learning "the ladder" could be worth your while.

2. You seem to have been hit on by an HB9. BRO YOUR CONFIDENCE SHOULD BE THROUGH THE ROOF RIGHT NOW. use this knowledge to know you can bag anyone, anytime.

3. consider finding yourself a mentor or some pua mates in your community. consider starting at the beginning, the very beginning about your image and personality and think if the PUA is even for you? You may possibly be happier with a long term girlfriend. And if that is what is going to make you happy, then go for it.

4. Remember the experience how they kino/kissing went and see what you can learn right from wrong. should not have taken hours though. 10 minutes tops.

5. this chick is obviously into you, consider using her for her friends, as a pivot, as a pre selected PUA, etc....

best of luck

Yeah seriously, this was one of the rare occasions the girl has practically made all the moves for you and you completely failed to act on it. I feel sorry for the girl, to be quite frank. She probably thinks there's something wrong with her... I suggest you get round there and give her a right royal seeing to. Sharpish.

I'm not even joking. Because the signs that she wanted you were so in-your-face, there's a possibility that she thinks you didn't wanna have sex with her cos you thought she was a slut. That's right, you made her feel like a slut for not sleeping with her. It sounds ass backwards, I know, but that's the way it is. Her self esteem has taken quit a blow because of this, so I strongly suggest you be honest with her and tell her you feel like an idiot for not doing anything and you wanna make up for it.

yeah, thats why I like to try to kiss close after three IOI's especially at their place or mine. Reason being escalation anxiety is not only harmful to our frame as pua's, but it also makes the girls feel really awkward especially if they think it's coming. the escalation should obviously be natural. (duh!) but i've always had a hard time pulling the trigger as well

funny story

i had a girl over and i watched a movie with her fully expecting to go for it, but I had the hardest time pulling the trigger. So the movies over, she doesn't want to leave, because she's honestly weirded out because i haven't tried anything yet,

so we put in another movie..... so the final credits at the END of THAT movie start rolling and i finally decide to go for it, so i had to awkwardly put in a THIRD movie right after we kissed so things could further escalate.

moral of that embarrassing story, after kissing in a bedroom it's easy to escalate. but just go for it after three IOI's plus the more time you wait, the harder it actually is to pull the trigger.

Coffee,

Next time you invite a girl over that you've gotten IoIs from, as she enters, push her up against the wall by her neck (in a light choke) and kiss her for a short time then disengage and continue as if nothing happened.

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I am not really a novice at kissing and having sex with girls, its just she caught me a little off guard, and as I have said before most of my first time sexual encounters happen when I am drunk and it is something I am trying to neutralise furthermore you don't normally get girls of this calibre putting it on a plate.
The problem lay in that she was in my class and that I just ended up getting on with her, those hours felt like no time! Maybe you are right I should keep her on a friendly basis, although she is a hb9.

And I have no intention of getting a girlfriend in the near future!
This sounds like a plan, though I might try what KristallNachte said, and pin her to the wall when she gets round, that will let her know were we stand without quite as many words I feel.

and mrcoffee999888's is also good advice cheers,

I am sure I will keep you all informed as to how I get on.

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you def had all the signs thrown at your face

idk what else she could have done besides jump on you an remove your clothes sorry to be a little foward with this but she wanted to fuck period no doubt

an you missed out you need to get ahold of her an be like hey wats up try to hang out an i like the direct but shy at the same time aproach there be like i didnt know if it woulda been alright but last time we hung out i really wanted to kiss you blahblah blah so on an so on the worked it in

That's something I'd for sure do now... But this was a couple years ago. It's funny because it was right after I'd read the game, and gone through a lot of the mystery method stuff. this girl was actually a result of it all, one of the first. and I was more confused at the tangible results. I didn't expect to get that far... and as a result.. I didn't know how to press onward.

I beat myself up over it all the time, but I was still an AFC....
On my way to a rafc... but an AFC none the less.

Bottom line. Take risks. Go for it. you will never improve if you say to yourself... Should i continue? always stick to the two steps forward one step back. use the tools.

"My motto is, If you don't get slapped every once and a while, you probably aren't trying hard enough
-Craig (from David Deangelo's Cocky Comedy series)

Cheers.. strange I've just read the game (just before Christmas anyway) and I have started to put some of the stuff I learnt into action.

I think maybe the reason the girl approached me is that she was a friend of a hb5 that I had trial gamed. (start off small, see if it actually works)

Maybe it is a learning process that we go through when we get too far to quick, one thing is for sure it won't happen again!, the curve has been learnt!

I've since broken my phone so haven't been in contact with her for most of the week. lol but we're in the same module tomorrow.

I'll keep you all updated!

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Satisfaction is the death of desire.

Labeling yourself is silly. Best/worst. None of it matters. Life is so simple. Just be who you are. Don't hate yourself. You think anybody really cares? Probably not. Not as long as you are trying to be like every single other boy around you!

Way to not even read his post, expat.

Meh, I guess you meant well.

Hey bro,
In an attenpt to make you feel better, I'm going to risk getting as badly scrutinized as you have.
Embarrassingly the similar thing has happened to me a few times... but wait before you all tell me off, I have an excuse... I was a drunk and I'd sometimes pass out only to wake up and realize I could have gotten some serious ass but was too drunk to even get a woody... I suppose thats worse but its a sickness I've overcome.
Just thought I'd throw that spanner in the works so that you dont feel so bad man, we all fuck it up sometimes but as long as you know you can pick up your game if you pay a little bit of attention.

Maybe if she ever brings it up you can just pull the gentleman card out and say you wanted to make sure she was happy with her desicion and just to be a gentleman you wanted to give her time to give it proper thought... then as mentioned give her a royal seeing to... you owe it to her man.
Hope she dosent fall in love while you fell asleep... nobody likes a bunny boiler.

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Peace, Finchy!