Well breaking up a marriage thing is a morality issue, not a practical issue (like fucking with your potential paycheck). I'm not the type of person who likes to dictate other people's morality compass.

My line of thought in these situations is "a woman can't cheat unless she wants to cheat".

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SouthernCross... dude... chill... You just acted like a cockbag. Yea, I don't agree with Jin, but there was no need to act like you just did. And yea, the whole arguement there was your fault. You instigated it by calling him a liar. There was no point to it other than to make yourself feel justified in some aspect.

He asks a question, we help. That is the way the forums work. Even if we don't agree with what he is doing, we can share our opinions, but not chase him off the forums... Just chill and don't judge people. Open your mind and be a little understanding instead of spiteful.

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-Love, Charity, and Esteem-

First of all,
Because girls are different. It's an underlying PUA concept.


Now, I'm not going to "hate", but I will say this:

"Leave them better than you found them"

I believe that's a Ross Jeffries quote. I think it's very sage advice.

- Dex

That is the perfect quote for this situation Dex. Listen to what is says and take it to heart. PUAs do not ruin other people's lives. We simply enrich them, if only for one night.

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right on fellas,

i kept it cool... i canceled on the drinks...went to lunch instead. she was a bit flirty but i remained restrained...i am just going to keep her as a friend so i can work her girlfriends instead. I think thats a much better plan for all involved.

funny thing though is that this other girl i am working on knows about her and is totally jealous, and its working in my favor. the world is a funny place.

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"50 below, knee deep in the snow" - Don Magic Juan

Bravo! See, you left her life simple and you improved your situation exponentially. Because of her, you have a door opened to more ladies. I respect this change in plan.

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-Love, Charity, and Esteem-

Here's an update to this story, and its going in a dangerous direction.

Alright, so I kept it platonic, lunch once, and we have had coffee together several times. The last few times she abiguously hinted to me that she has "boys on the side." Today she lets it all fly, confirming that she fucks around and even giving me graphic stories of how much of a freak she is.

I have to admit I was starting to get turned on.

She is obviously trying to groom me as her new "side boy." I have to be honest, like chris rock says, If she chases me, I don't know if I can run that fast!

its become appearent to me that she is either not going to marry her guy, or she will cheat on him forever, so respecting the sanctity of their union is begining to decline as a reason not to sleep with her.

Just venting, but any thoughts out there?

P.S. While writing this here is the text she sends me.

engaged: Hey, keep mum cuz I want a Jackie O image not a Jackie hoe...
jinla: count on me
engaged: ok sicko ur stuffs safe with me too...

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"50 below, knee deep in the snow" - Don Magic Juan

My rule of thumb is that if she isn't married, then she's fair game. It's up to the girl to say no (in this situation) to any advances if she loves her man and respects their relationship. I could tell by the first couple of posts that should was mostly likely down with some side action.

To all these haters up here, this is a PICK-UP-ARTIST forums. It's about picking up HBs, not about morals or values here. Trust me, if she didn't sleep with you, she'd be sleeping with somebody else.

I would most definitely be hitting that my friend.

I agree with this. I didn't sign up to these forums to get hated on either.

In response to Jin. Initially when I read your post, I'll be honest, my morality said no, especially when I heard you worked with the both of them!! But the case has been expanded somewhat since then and if she's opened up all that shit, I'm actually feeling for the poor guy who's forked out on a ring!!! : P She is definitely fair game, and if she's opening up other opportunities elsewhere (is there a word for that, "unconscious pivot" perhaps!?) then all the better!!

Keep us updated eh. I'm intrigued... don't meet many enagaged girls myself!

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“Where we have strong emotions, we're liable to fool ourselves.”
Carl Sagan

Don't waste your time with girls in a relationship. And don't fuck up a marriage. I'm seriously tired of hearing about this shit. There's billions of women in the world. Literally.

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Don't hate ME because I'm a cold hearted bastard. Blame the ONE women who made me this way. - True Story