so im

an the the smoking area of a bar and i spot a 3 set 2 girls one being a 7.5 and one being a 9 talking to this one guy, he was the centre of attention, so i thought id approach, so i walk over
me : guys i dont mean to be rude i cant be long, Girls i just need you opinion on something, who lies more girls or guys.
HB 7.5 : definately guys
HB 9 : yeah ( she just agreed )

but at this point they turn to the guy with give a dodgy look as if to say whos this creep.

so i ask him i say so as a bloke what do you think, he agreed with them, i mean he was so far up there arses.

then he has a shot at me by saying ' what are you some kind of survey man'

and the girls were lovin it .

so then i ask who are better at lying boys or girls they said girls,

they both say girls then this guys cracks another one and says seriously what are you asking this for at this point the hb 9 walks away and im then left with a slightly awkward situation.

any idea and adivice
cheers

cenzy

Right, im assuming your choosing to follow the mystery method model. This is a MM opener right, so you need a transition into normal conversation.

you cant just constantly ask questions and somehow hope the interaction will progress.

"I suppose I have a minute to explain guys, (ftc and showing disinterest), my old girlfriend Amanda (preselection with women) was telling me about this new guy shes seeing, and that he is a chronic liar! he lies about his friends, what he did that day etc etc all just to impress her. and so on and so on.
Turns out, she doesnt even have a new boyfriend! she was lying to me!

All youse girls are the same, i cant trust any of you!"(neg)

to me opening a set with a opinion opener is wack. plus with that dude there u made it easy for him to knock u out the set quickly. strike 1 strike 2 strike 3 yer out!

Soup, I like that... I would have just ignored him.(make him BETA) and stacked my material. or replied "I'm just doing research for my Psychology class and I'm writting a term paper(DHV) on social dynamics" the girls seemed to be keen on answering the questions you threw out there and he wasn't being a complete jerk to you. Or if you know the 5 lies game you could have used it to tool him right in front of the girls.

you "who is better at lying me or you?"
him "me"
you "o.k. i will bet you the next round of drinks for these girls you can't lie to me 5 times in a row."
him "your on sucka."
you "what planet are we on?"
him "mars"
you " how small is your cock?" (CNF LMFAO)
him "its F ing huge" (looks try hard
you "how many fingers am holding up?" use only your middle finger
him "5" (now he's getting just owned)
you "i forgot was that the 3rd question?"
him "yes"
you "you just told me the truth, ladies what is this guy buying ya?"

personally ive came round to the idea of opening with "Hi, Im Soup" but i can still see the value of opinion openers for some.

It was easy for him to knock him out, but not because of the way he initiated conversation, because of the way he didnt follow up.

you sub zero man thats sick i like it i like the way youve used the 5 question game to make him look stupid.

cheers all of ya for the help..

so any more openers you would suggest would be a good isea to use ?

i mean, would it work do you think if i were to approch lets say one hb or even 2 and then open with girls i need to quickly get your opinion on something, and then when they claim to be better liars than men, bring out the the 5 question game ?