hey you guys, i need a quick opinion on this one

how do you guys approach girls in clubs/bars when youre out with your friends? do you just stand in a circle with your friends and try to get girls into your conversations? or do you go out of your own social circle and approach girls?

do you go often just enter the club alone like they do on the pick up artist show?

i found that i have alot more succes if i go out alone and approach in my own.

what do you think?

If I'm with friends what I do is tell someone to follow me either after 5 minutes or when I give a signal and then approach.

For the approach itself, I just sit down and ask a question, usually an opinion opener. Just walk up, sit down, ask away.

I myself don't go sarging alone, I find that it lacks a something.....I guess I find it more fun when there's buds there to talk about what went right/wrong afterwards.

okay interesting, but when do you go and sit down?

after 5 mins of you guys standing there together, or just without the girls ever seeing you before you approach?

have they already noticed you before you approached?

I don't know if they notice me or not. I see a target, I go for the target so to answer your question, usually right after I see a good target. If I need a wing I inform a bud and then approach.

Yea, you guys are doing whatever, you see a target and you approach. This should be a no brainer.

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I hardly ever approach anybody who is sitting down unless it's a barstool. If they're on a table, you either have to have them staring at your crotch to talk or you have to bend down like some dorky Applebee's waiter. Sitting down right away might work if you look and act like "Billy Madison".

Also, if the girls are in a big group, then it's OK to approach them with a bunch of guys but generally, it's always better to approach alone. Definitely approach alone if 2 or less girls. . . (Less intimidating for them + much more intimate)

Once you befriend the girls, then you can take them around a few locations around the bar/club to meet your friends, etc . . .