Okay, I'm starting to think I might be too alpha. The other night I was at "Club Zero," (a local hotspot that is usually filled to the brim with hb8s and up) and I saw a HB9 at the bar. I immediately slammed down my drink, stood, and ran straight at her. Needless to say, she was a bit shocked when, within three seconds, I closed a gap of fourteen feet and was within an inch of her face.

"What's the problem?" I said.

"W--w--what?" was all she managed.

"I saw you staring at me. What the fuck is your problem."

At this point I noticed her friend, a skinny redhead who looked kinda masculine, giving me the evil eye. I pointed directly at her. "I'll beat your friends fucking ass, too, you bitch!"

I always pull this routine. I find with HB9s and above, you have to disarm them immedietly. Anyway, cut to the chase, ten minutes later and I"m about to get a # close.

And then it happened: Her cell phone started to ring.

For the first five or so rings, I talked overly it as loudly as possible. So loud, in fact, that I'm pretty sure people across the dance floor had stopped dancing and began staring at me. Anyway, she takes the call and starts looking shocked, stunned, maybe sort of distraught.

I was so in state and had them hooked on the routine I was doing at the time i was like 'fuck it, this will cheer her up'. So I carry on with this teddy bear line I love to use: 'I lost my teddy bear," I said, and they all gave me bewildered looks. I didn't hold back. "Wanna fuck?!?!?!' I scream so loud the whole bar can hear.

Unfortunately, it turns out the call was her aunt. She called to tell her that her mother had just been rushed into hospital with a heart attack. Man I feel like a dick but i guess it was just bad luck right?

There is really nothing you can do about that kind of situation, it was in no way your fault and you shouldn't really feel to blame for it.

I will say one thing though, I am quite surprised your game works, I mean the whole basically just being annoying kind of thing, thats just the impression I got from reading a small block of text though, so I may completely have the wrong end of the stick.

- SC

Have you ever called any of the numbers you've gotten?

This approach seems a lot more like sexual harassment than game to me. You're scaring the poor girls. They're not ARMED, they have higher replicative value than you. You don't need to run at them and shout at them. Just show some higher value.

My first reaction to this approach would be "What the fuck is YOUR problem?" and then I'd call the bouncers.

Why do you think this works?

Cinnamon

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It's funny you mention that, man. In this specific situation, the bartender actually was getting ready to do just that. Thankfully, there are various techniques I've devised that get around "sticky" situations.

I once convinced a group of bystanders that the girl was my fiance and she was drunk and "always behaves like this when she's drunk." LMAO! Those idiots fell for it, too.

Anyway, I find if you're aggressive, sometimes they're down right too intimidated to not be turned on. Women love abuse, my man. You just gotta give it to them in small doses.

I guess its funny really, your forum name seems to also be a description of the attitude you have towards women, no offense but you cannot generalise women to such a degree that they all like a bit of abuse and get turned on by this abuse.

There are many girls, and to be honest I believe most girls follow this same mind set, who do not like to be approached in such a way, or have their friend threatened, playful or not, the first impression these girls would have of you is basically, a dick.

I personally would never want to see my game get to such a desperate level that I risk being thrown out of a bar or club because of my actions. I think you need to re-evaluate your approach, and possibly your general attitude towards women.

- SC

Sweetie, I AM a girl, just in case the picture didn't tip you off. That's me dancing at my favorite club.

And I will say this now as a card-carrying member of the female sex and as a girlfriend of a PUA.

Women do NOT like abuse.

Your behavior shows an aggressive tendency that may hint at a low view of women and potential abusiveness later on in the relationship.

Why do women respond to you in a somewhat-positive-ish-maybe-if-I-give-him-my-number-he'll-leave-me-alone way?
Because we're trained that if a man shows interest in us that snubbing him is something only bitches do. We are trained to go along with a man's demands. Especially if he seems like he might get violent if we don't.

That is why you're getting a bit of success. Not because you're 'alpha', not because you're hot, because you're scaring the bejeesus out of these poor girls and they're too terrified to do anything about it.

Stop it. It's not funny, it's not cute. You're being a dick.

Cinnamon

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Damn dude, thats not game, and its not being alpha. That is violence, pure and simple. As a bartender, I would have anybody thrown out immediately if I saw anything resembling that kind of behavior, especially towards women. But hell, if you did that to a guy, I would have your ass tossed. I dont care what you tried to say to "disarm" me.

Im curious, how many girls have you done this to, where you havent had a chance to show your *cough* "sweet side," who have then gone on to call you back, or answer your calls?? Im thinking... never.

Of course you will say the exact opposite, and claim what a stud you are with the ladies using this routine. But seriously, my man? Nobody is going to give you or your words any rep on this thread after that opener.