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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:02 pm 
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For some reason I am expecting 90% of my targets to inform me that they have a boyfriend. Not because I directly asked but because they always seem to mention him in one way or another. So far my responses are;

Really? Thats exciting! Nice meeting you, bye.

or

Ok you got more then one pair of shoes too right? Nice meeting you, bye.

or

Very good! Good bye!

and finally

Well most decent girls got a BF, until they see somone better, then they jump the ship.


What do you think guys? And what is a BF killer?

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A Boyfriend Killer is a type of NLP routine that is used to supposedly make a girl break up with her boyfriend.

Now they responses you give the girls are proving that all you want is to hit on them. Don't let the boyfriend card be an instant eject. Instead change the topic immediately, pull out a routine or a new opener, then eject on a HIGH POINT. Make sure what she remembers about you is positive, not 'Oh. when he heard I had a boyfriend he took off'. The next time she sees you she should be thinking 'Hey! It's that cool guy!' not 'Oh it's him...'.

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It seems to me like you are accepting they have a boyfriend and leaving? This is not a BF killer, quite the opposite infact, it is essentially you giving in and admitting defeat, thus already making their boyfriend the alpha male, even if he isn't even there!

A lot of women will say this as an instant response to a man coming on to them too, like it has been pre-programmed, this is designed to be a repellent, most men when they hear this will just accept it and leave them alone, this is becuase they have not initially shown any value to the girl, thus she is not interested in him from the get go.

It is quite easy to use a BF killer when they are there, mentioning marriage, kids etc between the two of them, this, 9 times out of 10, will turn the girl off her boyfriend, basically associating her boyfriend with a committed future and no more freedom.

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A Boyfriend Killer is a type of NLP routine that is used to supposedly make a girl break up with her boyfriend.

Now they responses you give the girls are proving that all you want is to hit on them. Don't let the boyfriend card be an instant eject. Instead change the topic immediately, pull out a routine or a new opener, then eject on a HIGH POINT. Make sure what she remembers about you is positive, not 'Oh. when he heard I had a boyfriend he took off'. The next time she sees you she should be thinking 'Hey! It's that cool guy!' not 'Oh it's him...'.

Cinnamon
Thanks a bunch Cinnamon, and yea I usually do take off when I get the nice bright yellow BF card.

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It seems to me like you are accepting they have a boyfriend and leaving? This is not a BF killer, quite the opposite infact, it is essentially you giving in and admitting defeat, thus already making their boyfriend the alpha male, even if he isn't even there!

A lot of women will say this as an instant response to a man coming on to them too, like it has been pre-programmed, this is designed to be a repellent, most men when they hear this will just accept it and leave them alone, this is becuase they have not initially shown any value to the girl, thus she is not interested in him from the get go.

It is quite easy to use a BF killer when they are there, mentioning marriage, kids etc between the two of them, this, 9 times out of 10, will turn the girl off her boyfriend, basically associating her boyfriend with a committed future and no more freedom.

- SC

Ahh thats a very good and valuable response too. When I was 100% AFC I would 90% of the time just say "Ok bye" and walk away all quickly.


But now I understand that it could just be a shit test, or that I somehow made my intentions obvious.

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It will be a shit test ignore it and carry on, I managed to kiss a girl infront of her bf by just ignoring that he exists. As the for the ethics of the whole thing, if he was a great guy would she cheat?

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I don't know who wrote this exactly, but I've used a little bit of the material with some decent success. I think the key to this is tonality and trying not to come across too needy!
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Boyfriend destroying in the past has been clumsy at worst and ineffective at best. Let’s explore some new ways of doing this – making the boyfriend unappealing in her mind rather than ‘destroying’ him.
Let’s begin by saying that if she was SO happy with her boyfriend, she wouldn’t really be giving you the time of day, would she? Always keep this in mind. You will need to get across that you are her REAL type of man without explicitly stating this. Here are the things to key in on when trying to destroy a boyfriend.
1. Failure to commit
2. Jealousy-inspired arguments
3. Physically or mentally abusive behavior
4. Not assertive enough in bed
5. Being too predictable
6. Wanting to do off-the-wall things in bed that the girl isn’t into
7. Acting too needy
8. Acting withdrawn
OK. Those are some of the most common complaints from women in regards to their relationships with men. Now, you need to find out from her which one(s) her boyfriend is displaying and the boyfriend look inferior because of it. Here are some examples:

Failure to Commit:
“That reminds me of my friend Jim. He drives a truck for a living, but he met a girl from a wealthy family and started dating her. She was
really into him, but in his mind he just didn’t deserve a girl of that status. It was like, inside his mind, he was always worried that she would leave him because she could have any man she wanted.

Jealousy-inspired Arguments:
“Try not to be mad at him, OK? It’s just that you are probably the highest-caliber woman that he’s ever been with, and he knows that if you ever left him he would never find someone of your quality again. He’s just worried, that’s all.”

Abusive Behavior:
"This happens all the time when a guy is with a woman that he can’t handle emotionally. He just can’t handle all the things that are going on inside his head, so he acts out in this manner. He’s probably never been in demand with women, so he desperately wants you to stay with him.”

Not Assertive in Bed:
“I’m sure he wants to please you sexually, but he can’t because he’s insecure. It’s like the guy with a really hot girlfriend who ends up cheating on her with some fat girl that is not nearly as attractive, since she makes him feel better about himself. It sounds like he has a case of unworthiness, but you should bear with it for awhile, I’m sure he’ll do better soon.”

Being too Predictable/Boring:
“You two have become so close that you are more like a sister to him now than a lover. He’s really secure with you so he doesn’t feel the need to do anything special any more. 9
Don’t you see how most marriages evolve? This is the way. Now, with me, I’d rather keep the spice in a relationship, but I understand that it’s hard and most people don’t have the time for that sort of thing.

Off-the-Wall Sex:
“Since he’s never had someone like you, he feels the need to objectify you. He can’t open up to you because he risks the possibility of being hurt, so he turns sex into some sort of perverse game.”

Acting too Needy:
“Well, you should understand that this guy has nothing else going for him, you’re the only thing in his life that makes him feel important. Without you his life would be meaningless, so you can’t really blame him, he needs you.”

Acting Withdrawn:
“He’s just afraid to open up to you since he feels he doesn’t deserve someone like you. If he opened himself up you may not like what he reveals. Now, with me, I believe that communication is incredibly important in any relationship, but I can understand where he is coming from. He really doesn’t want to lose you.”

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For the record, I approach direct and tell a girl literally within the first minute why I'm talking to her. The same principles of what I do should work with a more indirect approach aswell, but I don't know that for certain because the attitude you're giving off is a whole lot different.

If she mentions a boyfriend, I simply say "yeah right" and get right back on track with what I was saying (ie. when we're getting together). If it was a shit test or defensive thing, they make no more mention of such a person and simply test me with other stuff instead. Good old favourites such as "you're really serious, aren't you?", "but I don't even know you", "well what are we gonna do if I decide to meet you?" are all common. Sometimes I get heavier criticisms such as "you can't just talk to girls like that"... regardless, my response is always the same.

However, if they insist they really do have a boyfriend, I ask why they're still talking to me - they never have a good answer for that, so it's a case of "if you say so..." then getting back to the matter at hand. They change their tune fairly quickly, but if not, I'll tell her she shouldn't be talking to me if she has a BF and that she should move along. If she refuses to walk away at this point you're either gonna be hooking up with her in the near future or she's gonna get very frustrated. In the latter case, you have a manipulative woman on your hands and it's time to move along.


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I can tell you from my experience, that a lot of these girls that say they have a boyfriend are in fact LYING.

Why? Obvious isn't it. It's either a Shit Test or a Go Away message that they don't wish to be bothered.

You can do one of three things;

1) Accept it, and walk away.
2) Hear it, but continue to plow through using a BF destroyer routine.
3) Ignore it and continue the conversation like you were just striking up a conversation.

I'd go with three, perhaps throw in a little line like 'Aww, that's cute' then move on.

I've had many of my girl friends say they use this line all the time on the streets in clubs and bars, most of the time they say it works and the guy departs. Unfortunately for them, they never really got to know the guy, but these AFCs are not in the know like us guys and we see it just as a Shit Test now.


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