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BUT what I was reffering to was HIGH QUALITY WOMEN

Celebrity is the pinicle of getting those High Quality women, and to quote a prevous repy, not those so called "HB10 Skanks" (read HB5s) you pull from your local dive.
Hahah.. this is pretty much just perfect!!!

This mindset must be really healthy?

So much reactiveness in this thread :) chill out and allow you beliefs to be challenged guys.

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This issue is being beaten to death and yet you kids are still stuck on absolutes. I just don't get it. Why do so many of you lack the mental capacity to realize the importance of certain things in its own right? Adam Sandler does the Shampoo is better than conditioner as A JOKE people. You kids are actually serious.

I know plenty of wealthy people who have less than HOT long term mates. Some have game, some don't. In terms of Branson, is there anybody here who would doubt that Branson could score some of the hottest Hollywood babes if he wished to do so? It's a choice. . . and he's got em'.

To the OP, I think you would agree that money is NOT game. Fame is NOT game. Good looks are NOT game. If these things were "game", we would call them GAME but we don't. You still have to be interesting. You still have to be a conversationalist. You still have to be able to offer intellectual excitement. You still have to offer lots more than just your simplified formula.

Madal, you've obviously never been to a party in a mansion. Maybe some yahoos seek value or status through timber and sheetrock? There's no way you'll ever figure out what's in the mind of others so I don't really give a damn about what others think. Mansion parties are fun as HELL. Being inside it simply is more comfortable and fun. A dip in the pool, parties in the game room, a kitchen where the entire party can hang out and chat while the chef makes whatever the hell you want. It's healthier because everything is cleaner. With money, you actually get to spend MORE TIME quality time with your partner as opposed to TIME ROBBERS, ie cleaning, cooking, washing, . . . How about all the leisure that money affords? Would you rather get to know your loved one better on a yacht in the Riviera or would you rather hump while sitting on your rusty washing machine on the spin cycle? What do you think she would rather have? Don't you think women know this? With money, their offspring is off to a much better head start.

Some of you are so lost in this game. . . "Money is just a representation of power so we'll just frame ourselves to be powerful. My inner strength is powerful so . . . I'll get the chicks. . . . blah, blah . . " Guys, there is a PHYSICAL World that exists. Go ahead and think of yourself as some Alpha confident guy all you want. Go ahead and learn the AMOG lines and put those other guys down. Ooh . . .tough guy . . .ha ha . . . you really showed those other guys that you're an alpha through a comic routine. Well, if you're a poor schmuck with no financial, professional future, and you lack ACTUAL powers that might help you gain any of this, you're just lying to yourself. . . which is OK . . . but you're also lying to everybody else and quality girls . . . they can smell you a mile away. The minute you walk out of that bar and you're riding your moped home and the guys you just amoged hop into that European sports car, YOU ARE DONE. Go back home and eat your mac and cheese. (alone)

The game is a GAME. It's just a dumb game where you chat with some girls and hopefully get yourself an opportunity to know each other better. Well what do you want them to know about your REAL LIVES now? Good luck and have fun trying to secure that beautiful, intelligent, professional, successful girl as a "NOTHING" but a guy who read a few manuals on picking girls up. . . oh and that strong "inner-self".
Firstly Wealth isn't that much of a factor until long term relationships are concerned.

"Game" Is all about power.

Looks are often under-rated in PU.

And your post shows you don't really understand me or madals, our backgrounds or beliefs while regarding attraction/value what have you.


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Far from it, I can get "women in general" at the drop of a hat. BUT what I was reffering to was HIGH QUALITY WOMEN

Celebrity is the pinicle of getting those High Quality women, and to quote a prevous repy, not those so called "HB10 Skanks" (read HB5s) you pull from your local dive.
That is your mindset and opinion which I disagree with. As celebrities to me are not high class girls as they are like the stock market. One day they are up the next day they are down. High class girls stay high class, they don't go down but only up.
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One PUA who will remain anonymous- did actually level with me- when i discussed in a 6 hour bootcamp- women (at the end of the day) are about money.
As I said in my post. If this was the case then all us guys need to do to get girls is show money to get girls. The fact that PUA exists and has proven to work says other wise.
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So why isnt he telling everyone else this?
Because he knows he is to a certain extent wrong. Money is attractive, but it is not the sole thing that attract girls.

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I've never seen
a) a PUA pull let alone date, or sleep with a A,B,C or D class celebrity. Strauss's Britney Interview doesnt can't as she has Bipolar so will sleep with anything- its part of her Mental Condtion- not Strauss's Game. Gambler having his photo taken with Paris Hilton? So what- she takes her photos with any friendly passing fan.
Most celebrities are fucked up mentally. So they aren't really worth dating or fucking depending on the celebrity.
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b) sleep with a HB10. Ok so some bootcamps feature HB helpers, BUT they arent HB10s. If they are then some Vogue Models I saw walking out of modelling agency must have been HB14 and HB16 (you know High Class Women Im talking about?). As mentioned I was with a top 5 PUA who "can pull any woman he likes"- and asked him to approach. He replied "After You". Proof that PUA doesnt hold a candle to Looks, Money, Power or Celebrity.
Even if I took your word on the models. High class women are a different arena. A lot of the stuff on this forum is more to get some random girl at the bar/club and sleep with her or go out with her. I don't see a lot of talk about getting high class girls as that requires more work, and you don't need money to do it.
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c) Been a celebrity or Rockstar themselves. PUAs over egg their achievements, their so called "celebrity game" (a skanky High Street Honey is NOT a celebrity- Ive fucked two girls who've appeared in the High Street Honey Directory- but they arent the best looking girls in my city).
What does a rockstar or a celebrity have to do with PUA?
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d) Worked at Burger King on a hourly wage. Why do PUAs (and Im talking about ones that actually make a difference- ie get laid) charge so much. Its so they can maintain their own jet set lifestyles- so they can pull high class women outside of their league (looks, moeny or power)
It is also because the market allows them to charge such rates.
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Even you "poor guys" who don't currently have money- must be doing something that attracts- attractive women that is related to money.
I don't. As its basically my way of screening out the shit load of gold diggers and materialistic girls that are around here.


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This issue is being beaten to death and yet you kids are still stuck on absolutes. I just don't get it. Why do so many of you lack the mental capacity to realize the importance of certain things in its own right? Adam Sandler does the Shampoo is better than conditioner as A JOKE people. You kids are actually serious.

I know plenty of wealthy people who have less than HOT long term mates. Some have game, some don't. In terms of Branson, is there anybody here who would doubt that Branson could score some of the hottest Hollywood babes if he wished to do so? It's a choice. . . and he's got em'.

To the OP, I think you would agree that money is NOT game. Fame is NOT game. Good looks are NOT game. If these things were "game", we would call them GAME but we don't. You still have to be interesting. You still have to be a conversationalist. You still have to be able to offer intellectual excitement. You still have to offer lots more than just your simplified formula.

Madal, you've obviously never been to a party in a mansion. Maybe some yahoos seek value or status through timber and sheetrock? There's no way you'll ever figure out what's in the mind of others so I don't really give a damn about what others think. Mansion parties are fun as HELL. Being inside it simply is more comfortable and fun. A dip in the pool, parties in the game room, a kitchen where the entire party can hang out and chat while the chef makes whatever the hell you want. It's healthier because everything is cleaner. With money, you actually get to spend MORE TIME quality time with your partner as opposed to TIME ROBBERS, ie cleaning, cooking, washing, . . . How about all the leisure that money affords? Would you rather get to know your loved one better on a yacht in the Riviera or would you rather hump while sitting on your rusty washing machine on the spin cycle? What do you think she would rather have? Don't you think women know this? With money, their offspring is off to a much better head start.

Some of you are so lost in this game. . . "Money is just a representation of power so we'll just frame ourselves to be powerful. My inner strength is powerful so . . . I'll get the chicks. . . . blah, blah . . " Guys, there is a PHYSICAL World that exists. Go ahead and think of yourself as some Alpha confident guy all you want. Go ahead and learn the AMOG lines and put those other guys down. Ooh . . .tough guy . . .ha ha . . . you really showed those other guys that you're an alpha through a comic routine. Well, if you're a poor schmuck with no financial, professional future, and you lack ACTUAL powers that might help you gain any of this, you're just lying to yourself. . . which is OK . . . but you're also lying to everybody else and quality girls . . . they can smell you a mile away. The minute you walk out of that bar and you're riding your moped home and the guys you just amoged hop into that European sports car, YOU ARE DONE. Go back home and eat your mac and cheese. (alone)

The game is a GAME. It's just a dumb game where you chat with some girls and hopefully get yourself an opportunity to know each other better. Well what do you want them to know about your REAL LIVES now? Good luck and have fun trying to secure that beautiful, intelligent, professional, successful girl as a "NOTHING" but a guy who read a few manuals on picking girls up. . . oh and that strong "inner-self".
I certainly agree with a lot of things you said kasabi. Tho if there was so much importance on money, then why can't I just show some girl my bank accounts and be done with it? Why bother to talk to her and get to know her? All she wants is money right as that is what she finds the most attractive. So why not show her the money? I know things are not black and white. But if money truly held that much "power" and importance why even bother with PUA? As we should just get rich like Bill Gates flash our bank accounts maybe talk some and bam you got your self a girl.


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Firstly Wealth isn't that much of a factor until long term relationships are concerned.
You are correct that wealth IS a factor in our game. And as you get older, money will continue to play stronger roles in all facets of your life, including your social interaction with women.

When you're young, money isn't as important even in long term relationships. Most 21 year old girls are happy enough being around positive, happy people. However, if you date a 28 year old professional whose friends are off to a scuba diving trip to Vietnam for the holidays, do you want her to be in position to explain to all her professional friends that her boyfriend, although is a strong, capable, funny guy in bars, is in fact a poor chump who can't afford a plane ticket? Have fun wishing them off at the airport with your "demonstration of power" one liners. "Bye bye! Hey, you know the cube? Come on! Is kissing cheating? Alright! Cool! Ha ha. . . I just pushed you into the other ticketing line! I don't care . . . because I have power!" - then go home and eat your mac and cheese alone.

You guys are preaching to impressionable young kids on this forum. And telling them that all it takes is "power", "strong inner belief", and a "good" game is an outright LIE.
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"Game" Is all about power.
This is false.

I'm not sure which "game camp" your trumping up but walking around with your head up, telling girls some funny lines, and then making out with them at a bar is not "power"; this is merely a monkey stage act of behaving in ways that people of power tend to behave. Telling your inner-self that you have "power" 100 times gives you NOTHING. A pauper who tells himself that he's a king 100 times over is a pauper who is delusional.
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And your post shows you don't really understand me or madals, our backgrounds or beliefs while regarding attraction/value what have you.
You are about as easy to read as a 20 year old girl sitting at a bar alone fidgeting with her phone. I sure hope that you're the 22 year old, "just discovered" the game naive kid that I think you are. If you tell me that you're a 33 year old professional, I'd have to think that there's very little hope for progression of this community.

Hey by the way, what do you really think is better? Shampoo or conditioner?


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I know things are not black and white.
This is my point. . .


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I know things are not black and white.
This is my point. . .
Kinda figure it was. I was playing devils advocate in my response to you tho. As I know money is not everything, but is certainly something that does help.


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So we can agree money is important in the long term. How much money do you need for the word "money" to be used as it has been in this topic? A six-digit income? Seven? Let's face it, few people are destined to be millionaires, but if you can manage to not be a lazy bum and work your way to a position that leaves you fairly secure, you can have just as good results, right?


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Right, i suddenly realised in random conversation a perfect example of where ur theory is very very wrong.
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Richard Branson (the man in the middle) is the 236th richest man in the world (estimated 4.4 billion US dollars in 2008) . The picture is him at the premire of casino royal. So thats power to get into a place like that.. he has also gone round the world in a baloon a few times and owns his own island home and he isnt ugly... so by your theory he should be dating the most beautiful women in the world?
His wife is the women on the left of him... not my picture of an HB10.

Care to explain that one?

Madals
What? You find one picture to validate your point? How do you know what he gets? Don't believe everything you see or read. Maybe he isn't a horny little boy anymore. Maybe he is happy. Some straight men stay celibate and are extremely happy. Go visit a monastery in Bulgaria. There are men there who haven't spoken a word in months. They perform simple tasks with extreme interest and focus. Remember, not everyone thinks or wants what you want. The world does not revolve around you or me!!

Once again...MONEY MAKES YOU SEXY. Just does. Doesn't eliminate problems from your life. Doesn't make you GET beautiful girls. Doesn't make you healthy. It does make you appealing to people.


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kasabi you posts do make some sense and then you ruin them by saying things like
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Madal, you've obviously never been to a party in a mansion. Maybe some yahoos seek value or status through timber and sheetrock? There's no way you'll ever figure out what's in the mind of others so I don't really give a damn about what others think.
This is just so funny its insane, you actually have no idea at all.

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I'm not sure which "game camp" your trumping up but walking around with your head up, telling girls some funny lines, and then making out with them at a bar is not "power"; this is merely a monkey stage act of behaving in ways that people of power tend to behave. Telling your inner-self that you have "power" 100 times gives you NOTHING.
Again, you have no idea :wink:

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You are about as easy to read as a 20 year old girl sitting at a bar alone fidgeting with her phone. I sure hope that you're the 22 year old, "just discovered" the game naive kid that I think you are. If you tell me that you're a 33 year old professional, I'd have to think that there's very little hope for progression of this community.
If we are so easy to read, how do you have it so so wrong? I dont even see a point arguing about it or why you think we are like that when to be honest you have no idea who the fuck we are, what the hell we do and where i go to parties and how much money I have. Its a joke, you have no idea how to read us and if you think you can it just shows how silly you really are, because to read someone from JUST what they type is nearly impossible. But hey, beleive what you want.

I AM NOT ARGUING MONEY ISNT A FACTOR. This is the biggest joke out, I actually agree that while some of your arguments, everything is a contributing factor including money (it might be a bigger point to some women than others).
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I know things are not black and white.
This is my point. . .
Its mine aswell :roll:

But seriously, I have no problem debating what you think you know about women and people in general, but resorting to personal attacts based on nothing at all might be seen as a flaw in your argument.... but hey, i am just that naive kid arnt I :wink:


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1. Money is an indicator of power, it's fuck all else, it lets you buy stuff, shows people how financially successful you have been and allows you to provide for yourself loved ones and friends.

2. No Job, no education prospects, no hobbies, no social life, no win. YOU ARE A LOSER. IMO that should be the number 1 priority on anyone's list when they join the community. To just get there life sorted. A massive turn off to women is "So what are you doing this week" "Uhmm I don't really have much to do"

You’ve completely misconstrued what I meant by power.

You’re version of my power seems to be strutting around with head held high and funny jokes….

3. I’m easy to read…..

Wow… pause for a second, this is going on a tangent, because it’s something that is seen again and again within this community.

If I’m so easy to read, why have you yet to make any accurate statements about madals or me?.

Why have you managed to completely misinterpret my view of power?

In fact why do you not know my age? (I’m 18, Madals is 17)
Why do you not know my background in PU?
Why have you not even read the fact (let alone used your inductive prowess to know) that I am a firm critic of the mystery method?


I mean the above doesn’t even need to be “read”, half of it is in my posting history… if you have me or madals so well pinned, then why do you just not get it?


I don’t know if you have any experience in psychology, but this a common thing, people learn a bit of psychology from PU and then assume they have what it takes to psychoanalyse others.

Or at the very least throw up this image that they have done so and that they can read you as easily as a “20 year old girl sitting at a bar fidgeting with her phone”

Quick tip kasabi…. …YOUR NOT DERREN BROWN!

And shampoo of course: P


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And shampoo of course: P
You idiot its obviously conditioner! Go back to your trailer :lol:


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And shampoo of course: P
You idiot its obviously conditioner! Go back to your trailer :lol:
Wait... What?

How the hell is it conditioner? Conditioner is what you use after shampoo, without shampoo conditioner is NOTHING!

Get your priorities sorted Madals.


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No!
You shampoo with a deep cleaner followed by shampooing with a moisteriser. Then you do a moiseter conditioner follorwed by a deep condiontioner!
If u cant see the logic in that you deserve a buzz cut!


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No!
You shampoo with a deep cleaner followed by shampooing with a moisteriser. Then you do a moiseter conditioner follorwed by a deep condiontioner!
If u cant see the logic in that you deserve a buzz cut!
How can you say such things!!

I thought you were my freind? We were going to appear on jonathen ross together!!!!

You shouldn't go through that, A deep clean shampoo followed by a moisturising conditioner is all you should need YOU FUCKING ASS!


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