I've been lurking here for a while and im kinda pissed so i finally joined so i could post this. This is going to be long and probably difficult to read at times. I apologize. I hope you all can get through it. oh and you will know by the end of this that i am a huge Style fan.

ok, so one of my friends turned 21 last night and i met her and all her friends at the bar. (I wore sunglasses on my head and bracelets on my wrist...my way of light peacocking) When i got there, I made it a point to meet all her friends and start conversations with all of them (even the dudes) to make sure I was well established. I started sarging this one HB7 and she seemed totally into me. this one dude kept butting in and trying to steal her away but she would just fluff him off and start up conversation with me again. Like I wanted to walk around and meet more girls, but i couldn't get rid of this chick. Finally, when the dude butted in again, i grabbed my friend (birthday girl) and was like, "does that chick have a bf?"
she said, "yeah, but he's not here right now. he's not 21."
i said, "well then who the hell is that guy (the butter)?"
she said, "oh, that's her bf's roommate."
So i went back, and this chick started talking to me again...when this HB9.5(!!!) walked in with 3 friends. Right when she walked in, we made eye contact twice. First when she was scanning the bar, then her and I looked up again 30 seconds later at the perfect second... but i continued to talk with the HB7.

After like a half hour, literally like 5 guys approached this HB9.5 and crashed and burned. they would walk back to our table shaking their head saying "son of a bitch...man...I just ran out of shit to say..." I knew that I would go in and it would be different because i would sarge her friends first and not go directly after her. But her friends were scattered...2 over here, 2 over there...they met up with a bunch of other friends that we just roaming...

So I first approached 2 of her friends (HB8.5's) that she walked in with...
1. opened with the jealous gf
2. best friends test
3. did the C & U smiles routine (this actually helped me meet a lot of her friends because they would grab their friends and be like, "so what is she?"
4. told a couple DHV stories

As I was talking to her friends (who were laughing, kenoing and just loved me), the HB9.5 was right there off to the side of them but i was totally ignoring her. After that, I left and met up with my friends again.

Then, I walked to the bathroom and the HB9.5 was in direct line with it, I bumped her back and said, "did you just grab my ass?" She looked at me as i stuck my butt out, scanned me up and down and said, "maybe i did." I said, "ha, don't worry about it. i'm used to it. ya know i flirt a lot too, but don't worry, I don't put out." i then walked away.

So I walked back from the bathroom and crossed paths with her again:

me: "are these sunglasses crooked on me? I always feel like my ears aren't even..."
friend HB8.5....takes them off me and put them on herself...
me to the HB9.5: "ya know...i don't date anyone who wears their hair like that. my ex-gf always did her hair like that."

one damn friend (one i haven't met...an Ugly Chick4.5 comes out of nowehere): "ummm.. and who the hell are you...and she's not your ex."

I looked at the HB9.5 and said, "don't be rude, introduce me to your friend."

so we meet, the UC4.5 and HB8.5 walk away leaving the HB9.5 alone with me. my heart is racing because i have never sarged a chick this hot before.

we're talking...i do the c & u smiles routine...i neg her like crazy...we play the 5 question game (i won), i told her to put her hand in mine (she grabbed it gently) and i guessed the number she was thinking between 1 and 10...we play the mouserace game and she actually let me draw all over her arm.

she asked me for my name, talked all whiney like, "you think i'm mean?" "what's wrong with my hair?" she was kenoing me like crazy and i would bust out, "hey...that's $20...this shit ain't free ya know."

(at this point, i am leaning up against the wall and to everyone else in the bar, it looks like she is sarging me. this shit works because i had girls taking my sunglasses, grabbing me, touching my face...no joke...with this HB9.5 right in front of me. )

She said i should buy her a drink. i said, "tell you what...you buy me something you think i'll like and i'll buy you something i think you'll like." (if she said ok, i would get her a glass of milk [props to juggler, you can see that on youtube]) but she didn't go for that and she started giving me shit about it.

I said, "oh come on...i'm not gonna jump through your hoops. you probably walk into any bar and ask any guy to buy you a drink, then you say 'well...nice knowin ya!' after 2 minutes."

She said (laughing), "i haven't drank anything tonight yet..besides i just turned 21 yesterday." I said, "well then i'm the first guy you are trying to take advantage of."

then i said, "you are a very attractive girl, but beauty is common...what else do you have going for you beisdes your looks?"

she started rambling off all this shit and i would give her points for each or take away points. (this is awesome.) she said, "what about you? what do you have going for you?" i say some shit and she laughs and we joke and im thinking, "man....there is no fucking way i'm not getting this chicks number..."

so the UC4.5 walks up and whispers in her ear and i say, "ya know its not nice to talk shit about that guy over there. (i point). they both laugh and say, "don't worry it's not about you." then the UC4.5 pulls her away and HB9.5 says, "sorry...i'll be right back."

I go and meet up with my friends again. After a few minutes, i walk back over there and she turns around so she's right in my path and she says, "ya know you are probably full of bullshit."
I said, "haha, what? ya know you trying to call me out like that puts you into negative territory, now you wont be able to make me and my friends that food."

after i said that, she takes my sunglasses off my nose and puts them on my head. i said, "oh you want to see my eyes huh?"

she asked, "so how do i know that you aren't full of shit? what are these for?" (she starts playing with my bracelets.)

I said, "well how about if i tell you about yourself with you just answering a few questions?"

so i ran the cube on her. in the middle of it, another friend (UC4) walks up and just stands there. literally...says absolutly nothing....like a damn rock. I stop and tell HB9.5 to introduce me to her friend. at this point it's about 1:30am and i'm giving her time contraints saying that i need to leave soon.

at the end of it, she had a ton of friends walking up to her and telling her that the entire group is taking off. so it's her and I standing there and i say, "well we should continue this elsewhere." i pull out a piece of paper, rip it in two and give her half with a pen.

UC4.5 says all bitchy, "oh my god...he wants your number! is he seriously writing his number down?"

UC4 asks me, "umm....what are you doing?"

at this point im stunned and im thinking, "WTF?!?!?!"

I look at them like they are idiots, then at HB9.5 with raised eyebrows... i asked them, "do you guys believe in magic?"

i tried to recover with her friends by telling another story (a true one actually). I even started talking to the dudes and to make it seem to the UC4 and 4.5 that i was non-threatening and they would leave us the hell alone but they kept asking me, "so are you going to do a magic trick?"

I said, "damn...im not a monkey...i don't do magic tricks just at girls commands."

so then her friends are grabbing at HB9.5 to leave. she slowly hands me the blank piece of paper back with the pen and says, "yeahhhh....i really should go..." but she's still lingering....standing there for a good 10 seconds and i'm scanning my brain trying to think of SOMETHING to say. i said, "well have fun. it was a pleasure meeting you." I shook her hand, walked away, said goodbye to my friends and left the bar actually before she did.

I guess there are things i could have done like tried to tag along and instant date her...maybe bust out the "kiss goodbye" and point to my cheek...maybe have been a little more forward like asking her if she wants to kiss me...since our first initial words were "did you just grab my ass?" i probably didn't escalate things properly. If i saw those damn ugly chicks, i would have sarged them first.

this was by far the hottest chick i've ever sarged and i left the bar thinking "wtf....there is no way i could have done better." i have had great success with half-assed sarges with HB7s and 8s and i felt this one was my best and i went home alone. son of a bitch.

if you actually read this long ass story, i'd like to hear your questions, comments, advice and criticism.

dude sounds like u answered ur own question reallly, initiate more keno, double hold her hand for no reason when u rtalkin to her for a while, i find soemtimes the problem is when im runnin routines like smiles and cube etc, then they tend to listen all nite an by the end they realise its not been a conversation - dnt know if that could'v happened here,
interactions should be bout 30mins tops to get a number not much more, the way it read sounded like she was into u an if it wasnt for her freinds comments then you wudda number closed im sure..good experience nonetheless, and gettin IOI's from a 9.5 is good for confidence, its all dwn to experience you can tell to be abit more assertive when the time comes so next time a HB's Ugly freind tries to cockblock u'l already have made a better connection an it'l be better for you.
nice field report mate, get ur confidence put down to experience learn move on.

-peace-

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Comments:

UC's were prob jealous that their HB9.5 friend was getting attention, and they knew they wouldn't get it, so no-one would! Should have got them on side straight away, like you say yourself.

When she was leaving, it sounds like she was almost asking you a question, waiting for you to do or say something, and it sounds like you just confirmed that she should just go with her friends.

Might have been a better idea to just have said, "well, you should do exactly what YOU want", with a smile, then no more pressure from you.

Just a suggestion. Other than that, I think you did amazingly well, and if I'd gotten that far, I'd be well pleased with myself.

I agree with what was said above. You played the game excellently, but that last minute was crucial. You could have said ANYTHING and it seemed like she would have done it. She didn't want to go with her friends and she wanted to see where you wanted this to lead. Honestly, her friends have no say in what she does or does not want to do, at that point, you have the power to tell her what she does or does not want to do.

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i like how you used all the routines/openers comprehensively, very nicely done, maad propsi HATE UC4.5, have dealth with them too many times, dont get what there problem is, they should go be ugly under a rock

I second the placing of all ugly girls under rocks or in cave.

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Man it sounds like you got your game TIGHT! Kudos to you man, I wouldn't have been able to get anywhere NEAR your level with that sarge. Her UG friends sounded like total cock-blockers! You probably shoulda tried to win them over and in return that woulda totally taken HB9.5 for a loop because you'd be paying way more attention to her friends then her. But what do I know? It's just a suggestion.

if you guys missed it, here is my follow up story.

listen-to-this-vt4587.html

A follow up to that story is, i have talked to the hotter blonde a few times on the phone and i've seen them at the bar a couple times. As of now, we are just friends. I have not talked to, nor seen the HB9.5 from the first night since then.

I know you posted this about a month ago but I figured "what could it hurt?"

Okay, I agree with what was said above except toward the end you should have isolated her one last time before the #close. Like the friends walk up and say " 5 minutes till close" you turn and say "I'll have her to you guys in just a minute, I promise." Then turn back to her and finish what you were saying (Or add a couple of sentences onto whatever you had just finished) The UC will assume you are just finishing up. As soon as she leaves then go for the number close. This HB9.5 had a shit-ton of friends by what you said, so many so that it was causing your game problems.

As for taking this to a "insta-date" form... that would have been a bad idea, imho. You hadn't concentrated enough on her friends (Especially the UCs) to make this a viable option. If you woulda gone to the Icecream shoppe with them... they would have seen you as a creepy interloper and done what they could to shake you loose of the HB.

Another possibility though would have been a different day "insta-date". Such as " Tommorow I am going to the beach(or whatever), you mentioned earlier that you liked sand in funny places. Where should I pick you up? We could meet your friends down at the beach." Or something like that. It would have been a bit more concrete than a number AND if her friends were around you could have invited them aswell. That way THEY would feel important too and you could build comfort with them. If they are comfortable with you, then they won't mess with you on isolating her later.

Like pick her up for the Group get together that YOU planned, comfort UC friends, isolate her when you leave to drive her home. You could just change venues at this point.


Anyway, I went on enough of a rant. I hope this helps.

Evo

Man, i admire u.. You handled it exceptionally.. You could have calibrated faster as u pointed out and about these uc's, u did all you could man. At the end of the day, if u had seen them earlier, and befriended them then you would've sealed the deal, but such an experience should have been a great confidence boost..!! Keep up the good work

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I agree with most everyone above...

But when the number close was going on and the UGs walked up you coulda Perhapse used Mystery's line of

"hey guys, hold on 1 sec ok? we like each other so is everybody ok with that?"

BUT since they are SO CB'ing i would NOT let them answer and add one of My lines

"WELL OFCOURSE you are! you guys want to protect your friend just as she would protect you but at the same time you dont want to keep her from enjoying her self.. so let me borrow her for just a minute and then ill return her back to you guys for the rest of the night.. fair enough?"

maybe?

Good Luck Player

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You allowed those 2 Ugly girls to shit test you in front of HB9.5.
When the first UG asked "Who the hell are you" (That was just rude). That was not time to be getting introduced to UG you should have let her have it. 1. completely ignored her and continue with HB 2. Said I'm [your name] thats who the hell I am then went back to gaming the HB and ignore the UG. You should have stood up for yourself more and let her know that was unacceptable (You lost some Value points there with HB). then another UG came back and took HB away you shouldn't have even commented when they were whispering the UG insulted you by saying it so you couldnt hear them talking and then stealing ur girl away. HB was willing to leave you (That says she was losing interest) when HB9.5 says, "sorry...i'll be right back." ---She's lying it was a nice way of dissing you--- I'm glad you didn't stand there waiting(You did good there). You messed up when you walked back over to her(You were Chasing her) yeah she turned to face you and talked but the fact you came to her after she ditched YOU gave her too much power she knew it too. And when you went to get HB phone # at the end and the UGs had an objection that was the last draw. You tryied to go into another befriending routine with the UG's it didnt matter how good routine would have been at this point they Made up their Minds and they don't like you. HB saw her friends didnt like you(You lost more Value). You're time was limited You should have looked directly at HB ignoring the UGs and said "are you the Leader of your group? you make your own choices right?(if she says No to either of those question she's an idiot(forget her)
After she answered that you could have gotten the number with ease or rejected either way you went out like a champion not because 2 UGs shit tested you and you failed to have a comeback Because You're to busy being Nice to the UGs(That insulted you all night)

It was good attempt though I think you're too focused on routines and trying to win everyones approval even when its clear they're dissing you. Shit test don't come just from your target. Be more aware of suttle ques like a girl walking away there's reason for that. Just because you're having a good conversation at that moment doesnt mean you won

You had her isolated a few times You failed to escalate sexually by kissing her, smelling her neck, biting her neck etc.
Sounds like all you did was talk all night....... Boring

Never ever follow after a girl that leaves you. Even if she says she's coming back (you let her find you) otherwise you look desperate and needy

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Instead of saying ''have fun'' i would have neg the hell out of her.