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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:37 am 
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Well, I asked my friend that introduced me to PUA material to bring me to a club b/c I wanted to try it. He said he was gonna teach me stuff. So instead, we went to a mall. Anyways, straight up, its was weird. I mean, think reality, like actually approaching. Once we got there, we just walked around. It seems kinda impossible to approach. Anyway, he said he would approach at least 2, and my mission after that was to approach as many that day to get rid of my AA. So he went into a store called Sephora, and he approached a lady and I can't really remember what he said, but he made something up asking for her opinion about me, saying that I have a gf and asking her what I should get her for valentines day whatever... I couldn't really remember but I guess it went pretty smooth. Then we left and he spoke to some girl sitting on a chair and approached her and did an opinion opener again... We left and then I saw her leave straight after that.

Then he told me to approach girls. So we walked for a long time and it was just hard for me. I don't know what to say. I feel like it would be easier to use openers in clubs or whatever, even though I never been to one, I think it would just be easier to talk to girls b/c thats the whole reason they're there. And he picked me targets and I still was super nervous. Idk... And then he started getting pissed and saying that I will never ever be able to talk to a girl ever if I don't even approach 1. He just went on about that I have to do this. And it started actually hurting me. It kinda made it not fun anymore, and my mood was really low. I told him that, and he said that its better b/c if you can approach girls with pressure, imagine how much easier it will be with no pressure and a better mood and so on...

Anyways, he said I have 2 choices, at least approach and open 1 girl, or we leave and I go home. I told him another day, and he got pissed b/c I wasted his time etc... Anyways, I told him Id think it would be easier doing this bymyself and so on...

I can't really go to clubs, and all the stuff I read is about night game. None of the material will work for day game. I really need help learning how to get rid of AA for day game, b/c I don't think I can get into clubs yet, and I think clubs are easier to approach, but day is my only choice.

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What exactly can I say to open, and what if they feel uncomfortable or think Im weird? And when Im about to approach, I feel like they think Im following them. And then I can't control my heart. And my voice feels like its being pulled back and then I can't even think of what to say. :cry:


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:03 am 
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the best way to get rid of AA imo is to just say hi. when your at the mall walk against the tide of people. every person you pass look them in the eye's and just say hi. then once you can do that move on to actually opening


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:05 am 
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so just say hi? what if it creeps them out?


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You're caring about what they think of you. part of being an Alpha-Male is not caring, cause no matter what, you're still the realest man on the block!
There was this guy on Keys to the VIP (no game-game) and he would creep out every girl he would aproach so much he didn't care. and HE WAS AMAZING!

About your friend, I don't think you can force someone to open a set and expect good results. It's about the Vibe that you're in. You're stressed and he's making you feel even worse! Instead he should have put you in a vibe like "I wanna open that!" and still feel good even if u get negative results.

Pick-up is supposed to be fun! if u ain't having having fun, it'll show and it probably won't work. You should try taking smaller steps. My biggest problem is still the "waking up" part. Once "You're in" it's easier.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:28 am 
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by just walking by ppl and saying hi u will find that most ppl are nice and that u have nothing toworry about when approaching them. like the other guy said your careing to much


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I hate how we all have this notion that women will just blow you off after just saying "Hi". It's ridiculous. Not every woman is a complete bitch.

I look at it this way: You have already been given the 'Worst Case Scenario' before you even approach (the 'Worst Case Scenario' being not talking to the HB). You cannot fail by approaching. When you start from zero, the only place to go is up.

Sorry if this doesnt make any sense, its kinda late and I'm pretty drowsy.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:57 am 
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wud u get creeped out if some girl said hi to you? and this is probably a topic best if researched because theres hundreds of posts with this same aa crap, its not anxiety, its excitement at that moment, and we are humans, talking is how we comunicate and body language ofcourse, how do you think humans have carried on for so long, what the hell are you afraid of? not picking her up? well your doing that already by not talking? afraid of not being perfect? well no ones perfect, no matter what i say wont matter, if you aint got the balls to gp out there and do it then well face it you aint gonna learn boy, im in new york city where every girl gets hit on with every gotdamn line, it aint ne easier out here but im doin it


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well first off, you have to seize the opportunity to sarge with your friend... i'm doing this alone as i dont know any pua in here, and even if there are good sides, sarging with an experienced player will benefit you a lot more as you know right away what you did good-wrong. next time you go in the field with your friend, think about those who arent lucky enough to have that possibility! :)

then, to open you can talk about pretty much anything you want... if you have a huge approach anxiety, i suggest you could do it step by step. start by giving yourself a daily opener: just talk to a stranger at least one time everyday. then add some more difficulty (as for direction-time first, then ask only to girls, then build your own opener, the one you are confortable with... use it 2 times, then 4 times a day...) you don't have to do everything on the very first day, take your time. your confidence will grow step by step. for the heart speed problem, you should try to focus on your breathing. that's what i do. just take 30 seconds when you breath slowly, and you just focus on it. you'll feel your heart slow down, then go open right away.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:12 pm 
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You get rid of approach anxiety by fighting through the fear. It's the only way, just do it.

I find that each gaming environment has it's own wall of approach anxiety that you need to break through. For example, I'm comfortable approaching in clubs but not on the street (yet).

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:52 pm 
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so your saying that during the day, if i go shopping or whatever, saying a random hi to every person will help kill my AA?

and whats a good opinion opener?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:24 am 
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Well...Hi, is the best opener! If you're at the mall, then ask her opinion on a store or style! ask her what would be a good outfit...etc. The possibilities are endless!!

If you notice yourself starting to stammer or just plain nervous then tell her that you're shy but trying to be more outgoing! If she has any sort of heart then she'll be accepting to that!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:25 am 
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hey man, im here to help. NOTHING will seem right with women ,no matter what situation you r in,,,if your mindframe is not right. thats rules 1. You MUST develop a positive attitude on life in general. this can take a few months. But you will never be truly successful with women without this. Along goes the right beliefs about women. (Women want me. etc) This is your inner game. Work on this while doing outside stuff. Cant be negative, women see this, and you will come off creep. nervous, its all in your mindframe. Seduction is all in your mindframe.

Now Taking Action» You went to the mall. Ok, first of all. Get rid of that thought that you HAVE to approach women. Nothing will make you more nervous. and feel creepy than that. SECOND, the mall can be tough for seduction man, lots of hotties lol. So yea,get the right beliefs down and start smiling an saying hi to alot of women. Do you have to say hi to every women you pass? fuck no?!! that is called creepy. You make that eye contact with them and the ones that glance back you smile and you say hey. Most of them wont even look for one second, thats ok their nervous,the packed mall is a nervous place. NOW try this. Go and sit at the food court and smile and have a good time with him.But be observant, notice how women respond better when you are relaxed and smiling...NOW smile and say hey.

ITS ALL ABOUT YOU MAN. If you feel negative, you will give off that aura, and women will do anything they can to avoid you. If you look at things a positive way, and smile more and take your focus off of seduction and onto having fun, you will be successful and will make cool confident approaches. So say hi afew days till naturally you want to talk more. WHEW, im done. good luck.


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