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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:30 am 
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This thread is funny.


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What happens when you get looks money power and PUA? :roll:
Then you get a fluffy hat....



But back to topic; It's not the money, the power or the looks, it is what these things grant you.... Freedom, Abundance, Influence..

These things are abstract.
That means anyone can have them

That means it is all an illusion.
If you can create this illusion... you get women


It's a Frame...
It's a Self-belief.

So, work on what you believe you are, and these things usually follow; Money, Power, Women... Looks are relative, and Charisma carries further.
Look at Steve Buscemi... It's not Looks, but Charisma

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my perspective on this,

money and looks and power build your INNER GAME, and inner game helps your outer game as well. so these guys learn how to PU naturally because they have that inner game already. so we here are learning PU without the base of those three stuff.

but i agree at some point, that money and power is the ultimate thing that build your confidence and alphaness solidly, n i dont think a mPUA can AMOG Obama easily. =P


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What happens when you get looks money power and PUA? :roll:
Then you get a fluffy hat....
You owe me a fluffy hat :wink: 8)

For arguments sake let me give this post more of my brain than the funny side.
Why does money get attraction. Money is power and social status. Power is protection and social status is value. protection and value are attraction switches.
Looks are mearly a genetic indicator that do play a role in attraction.

Money however is mearly the physical reprosentation of power etc, it creates an illusion of the ability to protect and that the owner has social status. The money itself isnt attractive, it is what the money makes the girl feel that is attractive.

Those feelings are mearly attraction switches that can be turned on in many other ways.

anyways, fluffy hat....


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Holy mother fucking shit. What the fucking disney movies have you kids been watching to have you believe all this hogwash?

Anyone can have "abstract" money? LOL . . . . .

Go head and work your freaking hotdog stand for 500 years and tell me how you can accumulate wealth.

Money is NOT the physical representation of power you poor dumbasses . . . instead, you have POWER, thus you have money.

For you young kids . . . work on yourselves. Don't believe these dumb ass MPUA guru weirdo live out of a trailer park types who poke on the occasional hotties with repetitive lines. . . unless of course you strive to be the poor dumb ass live out of a trailer low life who gets plenty of dumb ass putang once in a while.

WORK on your lives. Get yourself a professional life. Expand your vision! There's so much to life than your local putang at some some dive bar in your little town. . . .


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Holy mother fucking shit. What the fucking disney movies have you kids been watching to have you believe all this hogwash?

Anyone can have "abstract" money? LOL . . . . .

Go head and work your freaking hotdog stand for 500 years and tell me how you can accumulate wealth.

Money is NOT the physical representation of power you poor dumbasses . . . instead, you have POWER, thus you have money.

For you young kids . . . work on yourselves. Don't believe these dumb ass MPUA guru weirdo live out of a trailer park types who poke on the occasional hotties with repetitive lines. . . unless of course you strive to be the poor dumb ass live out of a trailer low life who gets plenty of dumb ass putang once in a while.

WORK on your lives. Get yourself a professional life. Expand your vision! There's so much to life than your local putang at some some dive bar in your little town. . . .
^Totally agree.


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Money is NOT the physical representation of power you poor dumbasses . . . instead, you have POWER, thus you have money.
Its my fault for wording my post wrong. Money is A physical reprosentation of power. You cannot deny money gives you power - this isnt a debate about if you need power to get money.
It is no different to the way 18year old girls like guys with nice cars, its not the nice car that attracts them its the fact that being in the nice car makes them feel more important and better about themselves.
Rather than looking at examples of things that are attractive look at WHY they are attractive and they will all link back.
Does that make more sense?

Also your argument doesnt make sense, you say money is not a representation of power but if you have power you have money? Excluding the people who fall into money then yes it is a representation of power because only people with power get it. Please correct me if I have misunderstood.

I went back to your last post:
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How many girls have you met who would enjoy living in a trailer park? How many girls do you know who would choose to be cramped in a 500 month apt over an estate with its own golf course? How about a McD's meal every night instead of Jean Georges for that special date?

So yeah, you might be able to extract a girl to slum with you once in a while for that "I just fucked a bum" excitement but she's always going to be looking for a BETTER LIFE. Whether this is done through a man or her personal professional life, a good quality girl will ALWAYS seek a better life. You either do this together, help her achieve this, or you provide it for her, or you're a bum who is standing in her way of achievement and happiness.

You kids who continue with this "money doesn't matter at all" anthem are delusional.

EVERYTHING MATTERS.

Our game itself on many levels is a DEMONSTRATION of wealth.

A person who is social, friendly, and is an effective communicator would be assumed(whether correctly or not) to be a person who has higher income potential. A person who can effective ASK for exactly what he wants and actually gets what he wants, how he wants it is a person who has higher income potential.

Go ahead and game and bang those girls. As soon as they find out that you have "game" for only chasing after girls, they'll fuck off faster than you can say, "But, but, but money doesn't matter."

In terms of our game:

As a young man, you're demonstrating your potential. You're demonstrating your potential for the future. You're demonstrating that you can be alpha and that you have the abilities now that will be rewarded later on. Demonstrating your potential for these things is enough for most of you now:

Social power, financial power, referent power, political power, Physical power, intellectual power, persuasion power, etc . . .

But go ahead and end up as some poor schmuck in a tiny village as a 35 year old and walk around with your DHV's or whatever the hell you think is important let me know how that works for you. Don't stop with the "demonstration" phase. Work on your lives.

Kids, this is just the beginning. Just because you now have the balls to tell a random girl, "Hey, did you see the fight outside? Shall we meet up later? Oh, you're so cute . . . " Doesn't mean you have what it takes to attract and continue to attract intelligent, fun, forward thinking women. For that, you should strive to better yourselves on all facets of life.
I totally agree, but the person who started this thread said you NEED money to get girls, this isnt true. Your example of trailer park over mansion, wouldnt it still go back to WHY she wanted the mansion? wtf is the use of a massive house other than to say to the world "I DID WELL IN LIFE"! Its to gain value and therefore to gain status.

People with power get money because it gives them more power and status which in turn gives them more of an ability to get more power which starts it all over again.

But hey, like I said earlier, please give me your opinion because debate is what makes this forum good.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:00 pm 
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Want to know what the real "secret" is to meeting, sleeping with and hopefully having a female to stick around with you long enough to pass on your genes with you is?

LOOKS
MONEY
POWER (FINANCE AND RESOURCES)

Before you give one star, think about the defining above words; as one day you'll thank me.

PS: if Money IS NOT key to meeting "high quality women", then why do the PUAs from AFC Adam through to David Wygant have girlfriends who know how much their boyfriends get paid per hour (for the record AFC Adam charges £100 or $200 per hour- I dont know ANY trained professionals who get that amount) funded by losers, wondering the "secret" to meeting relatively hot girls (I've never seen a PUA date a HB10, but I saw a "top 5 PUA 2008" getting turned down 3 times by Vogue Models infield once.)

Want to know someone who got a "real HB10" in the form of Angelina Jolie?- Brad Pitt
What was his secret?
Looks
Money
Power (Finance and Resources)
Please read the orignal post before replying. I have to reprint the original post for your information.


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1. Money is a representation of someones ability to accumalate wealth. Get anyone rich; give them low self esteem, give him a lack of confidence, a lack of escalation, and their chances at pulling will be minimal.

2. Money is important in relationships where you plan on depending on eeachother financially, that's very little to do with attraction, problems in relationships tend to be more "personnal" and concerned with personality clashes and logistics.

3. My secret garden: Sonia Florens.... it's a compendian of womens sexual fantasies. Seriously with regards to sexual attraction, when the hell does a woman think "OH JESUS HE HAS FINANCIAL STABILITY AND HAS MANAGED TO PAY OFF IS MORTGAGE; I NEED TO FUCK HIM NAAAAOOOOOOWWW!!!!"

Tell you what you go work for a couple of years, drive all your effort into gaining status in a business enviroment and gaining money, and then go out in field with your finanical records or the past couple fo years..... I would be interested in the results.

4.People who hold status and power get laid, becuase they are WINNERS.

Money has a correlation with status and power; but money doesn't neccesarily mean status and power in the way that a woman wants it.

"You're the Store Manager eh? Too bad I'm dating the shelf stocker :P"

5. Brad Pitt; has talent in acting, he is good looking, he has confidence, he has pre-selection, he has massive social proof and if you watch him in interviews his mannerism are similar to alot of PUA's.

Status is important, power is important, but it needs to be in the correct context.


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Fin you are delusional. Angelina Jolie would find "shelf stackers" attractive???

Ok I believe you. Lets see you and chum Madals, take her off Brad Pitts hands then......................


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Fin you are delusional. Angelina Jolie would find "shelf stackers" attractive???

Ok I believe you. Lets see you and chum Madals, take her off Brad Pitts hands then......................
Yeah Fame cause thats a tottaly valid argument.

I'm pointing out if what you say is true, then store managers will get more/better quality women than the shelf stackers.

Thats just not true, so regardless of how you whine your theory is flawed.

Watch this script get flipped, where does bill gates fit into this?? He outwieghs EVERYONE in money, that should overcome the looks factor, and his power is phenominal.

Tell you what why don't you go amass money and see if you can peel bradds hands of her.

My point is bradd has gotten his hands on angelina for specefic reasons and these are reasons which can be tied into PU.

Whats your success like with women? No offence intended, but you sound frustrated.


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Fin you are delusional. Angelina Jolie would find "shelf stackers" attractive???

Ok I believe you. Lets see you and chum Madals, take her off Brad Pitts hands then......................
Yeah Fame cause thats a tottaly valid argument.

I'm pointing out if what you say is true, then store managers will get more/better quality women than the shelf stackers.

Thats just not true, so regardless of how you whine your theory is flawed.

Watch this scipt get flipped, where does bill gates fit into this?? He outwieghs EVERYONE in money, that should overcome the looks factor, and his power if phenominal.

Tell you what why don't you go amass money and see if you can peel bradds hands of her.

My point is bradd has gotten his hands on angelina for specefic reasons and these are reasons which can be tied into PU.

Whats your success like with women, no offence intended, but you sound frustrated.
Many answers to your pointless reply were found in my original post.

My only other point with you is you either
a) you cannot read
b) you cannot read
c) you cannot read

As for pulling Angelina Jolie I wouldn't even try unless I had Brad Pitts
a) Looks
b) Money
c) Power (Finance, Resources)

Which for your information was the point of my original post.

Then again delusional people like yourself who have "HB10 Game", I assume with all the Angelina Jolie lookalikes on your arm, you are bound to make people jealous- right?


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Fin you are delusional. Angelina Jolie would find "shelf stackers" attractive???

Ok I believe you. Lets see you and chum Madals, take her off Brad Pitts hands then......................
Yeah Fame cause thats a tottaly valid argument.

I'm pointing out if what you say is true, then store managers will get more/better quality women than the shelf stackers.

Thats just not true, so regardless of how you whine your theory is flawed.

Watch this scipt get flipped, where does bill gates fit into this?? He outwieghs EVERYONE in money, that should overcome the looks factor, and his power if phenominal.

Tell you what why don't you go amass money and see if you can peel bradds hands of her.

My point is bradd has gotten his hands on angelina for specefic reasons and these are reasons which can be tied into PU.

Whats your success like with women, no offence intended, but you sound frustrated.
Many answers to your pointless reply were found in my original post.

My only other point with you is you either
a) cannot read
b) your brain is damaged by PUA psuedo-psychology
Fame man up and argue. If you're origonal post covered it so well and your argument it so flawed, why not spell it out? It should be easy.

and fame; I AM a psychology student.

PU is based on psychology, and we know that this stuff works, why?

How come PUA's devote their time here, how come PUA's can go out and teach and when asked to approach and close do so succesfully on a predictable and regular basis

WHere do you think NLP comes from, it was a form of psychology; started in the mid 1970's and alot of PU's "philosiphies on inner game" stem from NLP as well as the obvious.

NLP in a proffessional science enviroment has had great advances in the field of psychology and it's applications to modern day living.


Man answer me straight up, or take a break, for at least a couple of weeks, you need to time to clear up.

Your arguments are similar to a fundamental christian, rather than disprove contradictory statements, you just hammer on about how blind everyone else is to your "perfect logic".

It's not a good sign.


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Yeah Fame cause thats a tottaly valid argument.

I'm pointing out if what you say is true, then store managers will get more/better quality women than the shelf stackers.

Thats just not true, so regardless of how you whine your theory is flawed.

Watch this scipt get flipped, where does bill gates fit into this?? He outwieghs EVERYONE in money, that should overcome the looks factor, and his power if phenominal.

Tell you what why don't you go amass money and see if you can peel bradds hands of her.

My point is bradd has gotten his hands on angelina for specefic reasons and these are reasons which can be tied into PU.

Whats your success like with women, no offence intended, but you sound frustrated.
Many answers to your pointless reply were found in my original post.

My only other point with you is you either
a) cannot read
b) your brain is damaged by PUA psuedo-psychology
Fame man up and argue. If you're origonal post covered it so well and your argument it so flawed, why not spell it out? It should be easy.

and fame; I AM a psychology student.
Many answers to your pointless reply were found in my original post.

My only other point with you is you either
a) you cannot read
b) you cannot read
c) you cannot read

As for pulling Angelina Jolie I wouldn't even try unless I had Brad Pitts
a) Looks
b) Money
c) Power (Finance, Resources)

Which for your information was the point of my original post.

Then again delusional people like yourself who have "HB10 Game", I assume with all the Angelina Jolie lookalikes on your arm, you are bound to make people jealous- right?


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There is no "argument" Fin.

You are nothing more than a Forum version of a Tramp.


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