Something i found. I am not Otto Kreistler.

Don't you just hate those guys who think they can make a score with fancy words and buying you drinks without even knowing your name? I certainly hate those types. It's probably enough that they think they're all that but really, to think that their bloated egos and awkward style can be enough to impress a sophisticated and thinking woman like yourself is really pushing it. But sometimes avoiding them is a lot harder than you think, especially when you find yourself saying yes to things you don't really want. So what do you do in these situations?

You have to make life hard on them. 99% of all persistent pick-up line using boys will typically lose their nerve once they feel the first hint of rejection. But to make them really feel the ineffectiveness of their approach, you should really make them feel how unwanted their presence is. First and best trick that every girl has on her side is to know what kind of man is a potential pick-up artist and spot him from a mile away. That means you're never caught by surprise by anything he does or tries.

Now if he still tries to assert himself on you with his moves, one of the most effective tricks that you can do is just to say a two-letter word: NO. Nothing can kill a man's confidence more than the sight of a woman that is totally unreceptive to his advances. He can try ever trick in the book but as long as you say NO to each and every one of them, you're in great shape.

Now privacy is all-important in this kind of setup. You should never give him a glimmer of hope if avoiding him is your true purpose. You shouldn't divulge anything of relative importance to him: your job, your number, you home address. Doing that is just going to lead him to think that he's actually going somewhere and you won't see the end of him for a while.

There are countless other ways to foil that worst-date scenario. For more tips just check out: http://lifehackery.com/2008/08/04/life-7

"How to avoid Dicks and AFC's" would be a better name for the article

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The guys mentioned in this article + the one it's linking to are not pick-up artists. Buying her drinks, bragging about your wealth are one of the first things you are taught not to do. The articles tell women not to give personal information, what real pua will start with the personnel questions? If I remember correct, DeAngelo wrote in dyd that that bores women and it's the thing every average guy does (or was this in someone else's book?) and we don't want to be like every other guy, right? The article suggests 'The Bitch Shield' - this isn't really stopping real puas, is it?

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Too bad they will be the ones missing out

Bwahahaha. One of the first things guys learn when they come across the community is not to buy drinks. And as for the thngs we say... I dunno about the rest of you guys, but what I do is far from fancy. I'm just up front and honest, and don't beat around the bush. The majority actually do want to be approached that way, but because they're not expecting it, it throws most women for a loop. They'd forget about this book in seconds flat! Good luck trying to convince women that the first time a guy who actually approaches them the way they want him to, they should be turning him away. Get a life, haha.
I'll bet. Not because he loves women and feels sorry for them though. I mean come on... this is the authors not-so-clever way of manipulating women into having sex with him. You really think he's on their side? He's just pissed off about not getting any action and if he publishes this book he feels like women will tell him he's right and worship him and give him the attention he never got beforehand.
I wrote in one of my most recent articles about the importance of not having an ego - this guy really is clueless. As for awkward style... I dunno if he's referring to peacocking or what, but most of the guys I've met (myself included) just wear normal "trendy" type clothes. I thought it was customary to do some research before writing a book, but there you go.
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Whoo. Holy shit, I need air. First of all, anything short of the girl walking away is simply a test to see if your balls are real or not. Anyone with any experience or knowledge will not be scared away by "hints of rejection". Secondly, rejection isn't even scary - it's hilarious. Somebody buy this guy a fucking clue.
So basically, turn away all the men who actually have the balls to approach you. Well, that's just genius.
Otherwise known as, how not to get laid... ever again. Only women with severe issues or massively warped self esteem are gonna consider behaving like this. They'd look like more of an idiot than the guy talking to them to be quite honest. If a woman pulled this crap on me I'd sit the fuck down and tell her I was gonna sit there and say nothing until she talked to me like a human being. Yeah Otto, that's real effective.
Yeah, cos the first things we talk about are boring topics like that. Riiiight. This guy maybe isn't so bad after all, he's kind helping you guys out by telling women this. They'll automatically be weeding out the guys who have no clue what they're doing and once someone with the slightest bit of originality comes along they'll be even more gobsmacked (I say you guys because I don't do things like 99% of others).

I can't wait to see what our girly members have to say about this. Funniest shit I've ever seen. Seriously, only hardcore feminists or outright man-haters would take this book seriously... and we're not losing much if we get shut down by one of them, are we?

yeah, what I don't get is the explicit man-hate, is this a book for lesbians?

Can i be bothered to explain everything wrong with this? No.

Do i care if every women on the planet reads this? No

Will any women I interact with see me and think "OMG HE IS A PUA"? No....

This guy has so much wrong I almost feel like turning this thread into one about Chuck Norris - it would be more preductive

Seriously tho, a good pick up shouldnt even be noticed as a pickup - it should just happen.

Madals

Aside from the fact that this guy has mischaracterized pickup artists, what really bothers me about this BS is that you could just as well call this article, "How to be a paranoid ice queen and avoid social interaction."

Men who go out with the intention of slobbering on every woman they meet until one goes home with them; women who go out with the intention of categorically refusing to talk to anybody who approaches them -- they're the ones who make life hard for everybody else. That's the behaviour that makes most of everybody else cautious and nervous about socializing. The author of this article is encouraging that kind of behaviour!

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"Pickup artists" are so misogynistic that they call women condescendingly derogatory names such as "sweetie" or "girl." Oh, the profanity!

"Pickup artists" don't need to BUY women drinks... they have drinks prepared in their wallets already.

If you have five dollars and a "pickup artist" has five dollars, he will buy more drinks for girls than you.

There is no chin behind a "pickup artist's" beard. There is only another drink he bought for you.

"Pickup artists" are sometimes known to try and get women to drink their money.

The chief export of "pickup artists" is supplication.

If you ask a "pickup artist" what time it is, he always says, "Two seconds 'til." After you ask, "Two seconds 'til what?" you're already drunk.

In the Bible, Jesus turned water into wine. But then Chuck Norris turned that wine into beer. But then a "pickup artist" bought it for you.

When the "pickup artist" was denied an Egg McMuffin at McDonald's because it was 10:35, he bought it so many drinks that it became a Wendy's.

According to Einstein's theory of relativity, a "pickup artist" can actually buy you a drink yesterday.

LOL!

These are my faves. This shit made my day chief!

wow if i ever herd a guy saying this too a girl i would actually punch him in the face and tell him to go f*ck himself.
The sad part is i know girls who work on there bitch shields so they can give shit tests like a pro and make themselves look hard to get (which they think makes there social value higher) .
but back to this w*nker it is not right too say this shit.
most pua's i know are just guys who want to become better with women or who had a bad history with women and want to make themselves better socially with women (is that such a fucking terrible thing!!!!!!!)
anyways i could rant about how much of a retard this guy is but soloman already beat me too it so ile end it off with this.
Theres already enough challenges in pua we don't need another douche bag!!!

damn chief is a genious, excellent job on paraphrasing einsteins theory

ahaha chief ;]

and the whole article is a "how to have a bitch shield" thing. pffthaaha
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When you continue to escalate her imagination, the word "No" only helps the PUA in the end. Get her thinking about it more, and the more likely it will happen. Fuck "No". And Fuck Otto Kreistler.

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