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 Post subject: Epiphany Moments
PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:23 pm 
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I haven't had one of these in awhile, but when I did, it felt like everything just clicked and just made me want to go out, turning my world upside down in the process. I want to collect a list of everyone's "epiphany moments" where all the vital and life-changing information can be found in one place. Imagine if you will: A place where you have multiple epiphanies at once by reading the material gathered here. That is my goal.

My epiphanies (in no particular order):

1. No matter how much you study, there is no better way to learn than going out in the field and trying everything out yourself - really. When you actually apply the concept, you will discover what style suits you the most, which routines you actually like, how to react to her responses, finding sticking points, and overall improvement in social interactions. A lot of the lines I use are directly stolen from people by just going out and talking.

2. Congruency and being yourself. You don't have to learn those fancy routines that take a long time to memorize or have to worry about what you have to say next. The routines you learn are only supplements to your true self. If a routine would work perfectly after you said something, then use it. You can't fail shit tests if you are being congruent. The basic concepts of PUA should be good enough, but what truly matters is YOU.

3. No script. Go up to someone and without even a routine, spit out whatever comes to mind, of coarse, not everything that comes to mind fellas ;) This gets rid of approach anxiety and forces you to think quickly and adapt.

3. How do you transition from one topic to the next? You don't. Yes, you heard me correctly. NO TRANSITIONS. This rule especially applies to night game or when you're both high in energy. Cut and move to the next topic. Yes, that spontaneous. However, transitions may be needed for day game and low energy situations or you might come off as completely random (and they WILL comment on it). So then how do you know what to talk about next? Well, you cut up the sentences and pretend each of them are hooks you can pull on. When she says "I like it when my friends invite me to parties", you can choose to get her to speak more by asking: what else she likes, her friends, what else do they invite her to?, or what kind of parties/how are the parties. OR you could choose to talk about yourself and DHV by talking about what YOU like, YOUR friends, what YOU are invited too, crazy stuff YOU do at parties, etc.

4. Teasing, roleplaying, talking sexually, and kino are HUGE. If you don't do something interesting or sexually escalate, you will find yourself in the friend zone FAST. Teasing is basically making fun of her or "busting her balls". Most guys don't have the guts to just plain out bust on her the first time she meets. Teasing is a good way to quickly break the "I just met you" complex. Roleplaying is "slotting her in a role" that you've created. You literally play pretend with her and the joy she gets from it is RIDICULOUS. Try putting her in the role of the girlfriend or wife, those are GOLDEN. Talking sexually is a must, it states your intent and changes her state of mind. I've gotten a girl to say straight out, "OMG, you're turning me on! stoppp ittt!!" Kino. Kinda self explanatory but basically touch the girl a lot (not too much that it becomes obvious) from the moment you meet her. This basically makes her comfortable with touching you witch is crucial if you want to go any further with her. If you don't, you'll get those awkward "it's been a good night, door kiss" moments.

5. You're out to have FUN. Detach yourself from all outcomes and learn from your mistakes. If your goal is to have fun, then that is much easier to accomplish than picking up X amount of women. Be the guy who was the life of the party and the women will follow. Social proof. At the end of the night, you always win.

I hope all of these make light bulbs go off and that you can benefit from them =) Now that I've shared my secret "epiphany moments" it's about time you guys shared yours!

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:01 pm 
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Well in Oct 07 I picked up a bird from an Oktoberfest. She was tipsy but I later realised that I did everything right to pick her up.

1. i asked her (HB 7.5) to dance (i didnt dither when I saw her, I just went in)
2. when there was a break in the music I left saying I was joining my friends (didnt creep her out by overstaying welcome, left her wanting more attention)
3. I scored with her that night and the next day...the scary thing was when I went down on her I saw these cuts on her arms. She was having emo issues due to various reasons. Nevertheless I was like 'WTF?' at the time wondering what i got myself into.

Picking up women isnt rocket science at times, often they are happy to be picked up if they are in the right mindset and right place.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:41 pm 
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Lol I get these all the time but keep forgetting them:).

My first one I had the other day at work

I started thinking once you TRY to change instead of just changing things get uncomfortable.
Like in music usually an artist or bands first CD will be totally super awesome then their next CD has like a more commercial sound to it and for the most part isn't as good as the first thing.
You shouldn't force yourself to be what people want. Just be yourself with all the pua stuff mixed in to you.

Then this one I borrowed it from Invisible Monsters (awesome book by Chuck Palahnuik)

Do the stuff you don't want to do
Like If I'm thinking of what to say to someone then I get an idea and Im like no thats stupid, then Ill say it and just flow with whatever happens next. Or even the forums like Ill go in to a thread and be like thats too long to read, then I have to click back and read the thread. lol.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:25 pm 
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1. Life is about a lot more than just picking up beautiful women.
2. Remember your real friends!


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