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PostPosted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:03 pm 
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hey man, ive read through this thread and its looking alright but there is one thing you really have to watch out for. when u used that line about the "ooh youre so cute...little sister..etc," it was good---but it should not be used multiple times....

what i mean is like...

day 1 --- you said the little sis line.

next time you talk --- "hey lil sis" or w/e you said in regards to that

so when she texted you back, she said hey big bro----we all kno that obviously she was kidding around, but at the same time you're transitioning to that friend zone.

I would immediately contact her and say something like...idk

"Hey i got a couple minutes between so and so classes tomorrow but if you want to get a coffee, im sure i can fit you into my schedule....its not a date though so dont get all excited, you're not really my type"

obviously reword it a bit ( i just kind of wrote that on the fly) but thats the great thing about texts/facebook is you can make it say exactly what you want to say.

if you say this, you are once again DHVing yourself, and negging her lightly by saying she isnt your type.

she will prolly say, why arent i your type...

and idk, you and can say something like, idk...i cant stand greeks

im in a fraternity and i use that line all the time---since they kno i a greek, they get a kick out of it, but then meet her for coffee or w/e and build attraction. through push and pull etc.

just keep in mind, you game for the fun of it, not to get laid---so relax and just have fun.

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OOH also

remember....if you are going to to game, positive reaction = positive consequence and vice versa....send me a msg and i can tell u a bit more if u want.


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Alright, new update.

Amb11: haha alright good. you're definitely getting lunch with me this week... it's not a date though so don't get all excited, you're not really my type =)

HB: a) ouch
b) sounds like a plan

I wouldn't want to be incestuous, now would I? lol


So things are back in business. Kind of annoyed she's still holding on to this running joke of the little sister, but I guess that is my fault after all. Will let you know how it goes.


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Actually, I thought about this one and the fact that she said "we wouldn't want to make this incestuous" means she's talking about a relationship/hook up. Would a neg here be good followed by a date to meet? Something like:

"Whoa there speed racer, let's slow this down and get to know each other before talking about a relationship. How about Tuesday around 1 at the dining hall?"


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i have been in situations where i wanted to go out with girls but i didn't want it to seem like a serious date or anything. try this if you want.

tell her that your down to hangout and that she should come keep you company when you go to pick up a few things at the grocery store. then pick stuff out that you both like and cook together. when you cook just be really flirty. works like a charm. don't forget the dark chocolate.


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Amb11: haha alright good. you're definitely getting lunch with me this week... it's not a date though so don't get all excited, you're not really my type =)

HB: a) ouch
b) sounds like a plan

I wouldn't want to be incestuous, now would I? lol


So things are back in business. Kind of annoyed she's still holding on to this running joke of the little sister, but I guess that is my fault after all. Will let you know how it goes.
A very nice call, put up a barrier and implant a " seed " of intimacy with her.
Something I would have done.
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Actually, I thought about this one and the fact that she said "we wouldn't want to make this incestuous" means she's talking about a relationship/hook up.

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You are very right, the fact she thought about implying something sexual may happen is a very good sign.



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I wouldn't want to be incestuous, now would I? lol
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"Whoa there speed racer, let's slow this down and get to know each other before talking about a relationship. How about Tuesday around 1 at the dining hall?"[/
I like your response, however, it's a response used for a different situation.

I am not saying your response won't get a good reaction, I am just saying it won't garauntee you a good response.

Your response can backfire on you, causing her to give the argument of :
Her: What are you talking about? All I implied was. No, I would never think about doing anything like that with you because we are brother and sister.

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I wouldn't want to be incestuous, now would I? lol
When people imply things and ask questions as she did. It's best to get her to admit you 2 should ramp things up. Here's what you do:
Answer her question with a question, Offer a solution and finally, Show the first initial signs of fliration. To FINALLY cross the friends zone.

One more note*
When it comes to logistical questions . .. NEVER ask her where you two should go. Always tell her where you are going, if she doesn't like it she will say something.
You do all this by:



Step1. answering her question with a question.
Step2. Offer a solution
Step3. Time to finally escalate, be the one to give her a flirty comment. Not a big one though, a minor one.
Step4. Give her the time and place YOU are comfortable with.




Example:

Her: I wouldn't want to be incestuous, now would I? lol

Me: Step1. (answer her question with a question )I dont know, would you?
Step2. (solution) However, techniquely, we aren't really brother and sister :)
Step3. (finally Fllirt) which is a relief because I enjoy your smile :)
Step4:(time and place YOU are comfortable with) I am free Tuesday around 1 at the dining hall "[/

So in the end I would respond something along the lines of:
I dont know, would you? However, techniquely, we aren't really brother and sister . ..which is a relief because I enjoy your smile :) Iam free Tuesday around 1 at the dining hall?"

Good luck Amp,
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Ok, so little update/need help.

I said the whole "I don't know do you?" thing and finally said. I'm free on Tuesday at 1. She responded, I have class from 12-2:30, my freest days are are Weds. and Fri. I then said, "Same time friday." to which she responded "I can't, I'm having lunch with the dean of students that day."

I don't think she's intentionally trying to flake me, I'm just getting unlucky with times. I would like to see this girl, but I don't want to come off as a needy guy that keeps asking/saying "How about this day? What about that day? etc." How should I proceed?


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I said the whole "I don't know do you?" thing and finally said. I'm free on Tuesday at 1. She responded, I have class from 12-2:30, my freest days are are Weds. and Fri. I then said, "Same time friday." to which she responded "I can't, I'm having lunch with the dean of students that day."



This is known as the "logistic's dilemna. " It's when two people really dig each other, but can't ever find a mutual meeting time because of their daily scheduled lives.

You are right, this is a sticky situation because she has already denied your invite twice. After the first time of being denied I would have said what I am about to tell you below:

I would say this:
" Well *instert name*, I definitely enjoy your company and want to see you. It seems our schedules conflict each other, so how about you tell me when are you free and i'll compremise :)

Try this and let me know how it goes. Good luck

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Alright, that's a great idea. By the way, Thank you very much Timmy and everyone else that has helped me so far. I really appreciate it as well as the community as a whole. I've always thought I've had the looks, intelligence, and ability to be great with women, but never figured out how. Being 19, I figured there's no better time than now to learn, so thanks once again to everyone.


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Another option I find works well when trying to make those initial hook up times is to say, in your case.

you: I'm pretty busy this week but I can do lunch on tue or fri? (let her pick one.)
Then in your case obviously she is busy on both
HB: sorry can't do either, I got stuff on then...
This then allows you to ask her when she is free, simply out of curiosity, as you have already provided two options for her.
You: Really, well what day is good for you then?
HB: Thurs
You: Well you know what, I might be able to change things around a bit and be able to meet you on thurs... (you can add your own flare to that statement) but thats the basic blue print.

But giving her two options straight away, and then asking her when she is free is much better than saying how bout wed - no!, how bout thurs - no! Ok how bout fri - NO!... haha

good luck champ. 19 and your getting into game. Good stuff mate!


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Yeah, I basically said that our schedules don't match up and she should tell me when she is free then. She responded ok i'll look at my schedule later, but if worse comes to worse i'll see you at the mixer on feb. 12. So should I let this fizzle out until the mixer where I'm definitely going to see her and work my game there? Seems like the best option for the time being.


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Bump, still hasn't gotten back to me with her schedule and I haven't responded to her last message, so I guess I'll see her at the mixer and do work there :D


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Hi Amp
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Think there's any shot of getting this back on track or should I just mark it as a loss and move on?

I would say you still have a chance, it may not be big, but you still have a chance.

I would suggest:
step 1. giving a reason to why you were being inconsiderate
step2. apoligize
step3. make a joke to lighten up the awkard moment of the message.

For example:
Step1.(apologize) Hey *(insert name)* I want to apologize if I came off as a jerk the last message

Step2.(reason) Someone cut in front of me in line at the post office

Step3. (make a joke) I took it out by calling several people mean names such as " weird, or turtleface " :P

Step4: (closing) I am having to spend the whole day apologizing to all my victims (you being one)

But be safe and I hope all is well with you


So in the end, your message should look something like this:

Hey *(insert name)* I want to apologize if I came off as a jerk the last message. Someone in cut in front of me in line at the post office, I took it out by calling several people mean names such as " weird, or turtleface." :P
I am having to spend the whole day apologizing to all my victims (you being one)

But be safe and I hope all is well with you




This is what I like to call " The Final Stand "
It's a final message ( on text or done in person ) I send to a girl after seriously fucking up, and realize there's still a chance . . . it's a small chance. But, still a chance.


It's basically " one last message." If she comes back, she'll come back. If not, than move on.



So send her your "Final Stand " and Good luck.
This is pure genius thanks for your great suggestions in this thread.


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