50 posts! yay! I can finally post this!!!

I saw a post in the newbie questions about what games girls use to attract. Cinnamon Spice gave a pretty good answer, saying that girls will generally be pretty straightforward, however sometimes this is not true. I apologize if I use wrong or no terminology in this, but I feel that you will understand what I’m saying.

It’s hard for me to nail down a singular way that girls play their games. As humans, we all differ, yet we are all the same. I run my own game, but I find that it is completely different than how some of my girlfriends run theirs.

In my game, there are reasons behind every “rule.“ and remember….rules are made to be broken…or bent to my will.

I rarely, if ever, approach first. I make the guy come to me because I would not be able to deal with a “shy guy.” If a guy does not have the balls to approach me, he wouldn’t be able to keep up with me anyway. I understand that it is always difficult to make the first approach, but confidence is key. You try to be the Alpha male because women want the alpha male. The alpha male approaches. One that is not alpha hangs back and hopes she will approach.

Once he says hi, I of course exude confidence to match or rival his. I am a confident woman. I find that men are attracted to confidence as much as I am. If I can rival his confidence and/or cockyness he will see it as a challenge to rival mine right back. This keeps him interested and talking to me. The trick is to not get TOO cocky with it, or it will make him uncomfortable and he will go looking for the “safe” girl who he can top.

Touch is the next step. (This is the longest section, because I very much feel that it is most important). I have to use the bathroom, or get another drink, or go outside for a cigarette, so I get up, and of course, have to squeeze by him in some way. While squeezing by I put my hand on his hip or lower back. Also, I make it known that I will be back in a moment; then, if I really am still interested, I ACTUALLY DO come back. Once back, I find a way to touch his arm, hand or shoulder in some non-threatening way. Physical touch is sociobiologically very important. There is a certain amount of connection that happens with physical touch. In Sales, one of the first things one is taught is to make the customer touch and/or hold the product. It creates ownership and the customer is more likely to buy. Making the guy touch me makes him more likely to want to touch more.

Cinnamon said something about being flirty but not slutty. This is key. I heard a quote once that said “Guys want to have sex with sluts, they don’t want to date them.” Most women are looking for relationship more than just sex. I want to show him that I am a sexual being, but I don’t want to make him think that sex is all I’m good for.

Finally, the best way to let him know I’m attracted is to #close, but for me, I don’t like to give him mine. The best thing ever is when he says “Let me give you my number.” I try to get his because then I am in control of the next step. If we had a great time, I’m gonna call, and then he has my number as soon as I call him. He gets the number in the end, but I get the choice. I also find that the best way to #close is to invite him to some other event going on in the next few days. That way, I actually have a reason to call him. “You totally should come out to karaoke Tuesday night. If you give me your number, I’ll call or text you to let you know what time I’m heading out there.”

That, in a nutshell, is my game. I play it without even realizing it. Writing it out is a little trippy.

Any questions?

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Hobbit says that I should tell you I'm female.....so.....

HI!!! I'm a Girl!

You have your game pretty much set, the only thing you didn't explain is how you make the guy come to you, and what happens when none of the guys you send IOI's to approach you.

I understand that's how your game works however thats a complete conflict of interest.

If I ask a girl for her number and she declines but wants me to give her my number. I wouldn't give her my number thats a complete lost already because it puts you the woman in control and it says rejection on so many levels because now I'm just waiting on you for a phone call that may never come. It breaks all the rules of the game you're supposed to exchange numbers if anything.

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yeah, so usually we do EXCHANGE numbers, and I feel it out, but there have been a few times where I've gotten his and not had to give him mine. USUALLY I do call....

And that's kind of the point...that I get his number so I remain in control.


How do I get the guy to come to me? It's not that hard. Usually if I send the IOIs, they just do it. If not, I move in close so he dosn't have to walk too far, or even at all to say hi.

What happens when he does make contact? I just use my sparkling smile and flirty nature to lure him in. sounds so ...devious...but really it's not...it flirting.

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Hobbit says that I should tell you I'm female.....so.....

HI!!! I'm a Girl!

ok, I misread one of the posts...what do I do if NONE of the guys I have been sending IOIs to approaches? Find new ones...or just continue having fun. That's the beauty of it all. My ability to have a delicious time does not depend on having a stranger flirt with me. I make my own fun.
and....If need be, I flirt with one of my guy friends...they understand my flirty nature and they flirt right back.

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Hobbit says that I should tell you I'm female.....so.....

HI!!! I'm a Girl!

Most guys don't like being left hanging. I understand what you are doing, but in my opinion your playing a mind game. And there are bound to be guys that don't put up with mind games. I know if you did this to me I would go to the next girl or go back talking to my friends.
Besides what Reo said if I was interested in the girl and she threw this at me I would give her my e-mail address. If she insists for my number I will force a number exchange.
How successful has this been for you? And how do you let the guys still remain men even when you take control?

Exactly as hobbit said....it's not really a "mind game." Most of the stuff that I put in there I just do naturally, and I figured out later why, subconciously or psychologically, I do these things...and then more conciously do them next time...because they do work.

The leaving for a moment thing...DOES work...and it's not a mind game. Usually, I do have to pee! (I've been drinkin, and oh, yeah...I"M HUMAN TOO!) or have to feed my nicotine addiction, or have another drink! Really....I don't just get up and leave for the sake of leaving...unless I don't plan on coming back anyway, but I have the need to do so...I just incorperate touch in my exit as an IOI and as I said, to make him want more.


And as I said before. The number thing is not set in stone. I don't always give out my number (even if he insists), but I have and I would if he is charming enough. if he refuses to give me his, and I don't want to give him mine, then fine...."Hope to see ya around."

I don't measure success by weather or not I close someone in the night. I measure it by how much fun I had during the night. And I don't NEED to find a guy in order to have fun.



How often do my methods work? I haven't taken a poll, but really....I'd say 90%. If I go out wanting to get a number...I usually get it. occasionally it dosn't work, but that's USUALLY when I'm not trying. So...yeah....90%

Guys say it all the time...and it really is true....it's so much easier for girls.

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Hobbit says that I should tell you I'm female.....so.....

HI!!! I'm a Girl!

In general I would not leave a set if they went to the bar, or to the restroom. I would leave a set if they went out to have a smoke as that is a turn off for me as it is something I do not want to be around at all. But I was more viewing RTTastic "move" as more the classical mind game girl getting guy to chase her. I am not saying mind games are out right bad as they do have uses. I am just saying there are guys that don't want to chase a girl that left them hanging thats all.

How often do my methods work? I haven't taken a poll, but really....I'd say 90%. If I go out wanting to get a number...I usually get it. occasionally it dosn't work, but that's USUALLY when I'm not trying. So...yeah....90%

Guys say it all the time...and it really is true....it's so much easier for girls.[/quote

If that's so true for you, aside from wanting attention why are you here?
and what's the name of your husband?

I personally prefer getting advice from people that sleep with women because they know what it takes.

I am not saying other wise.
I am not saying there isn't a legit reason to leave. As I said to hobbit, I view your "move" as making the guy chase you.

Fair enough


Yup. It is also something I been saying for some time now.

But getting the view point from the girls is quite useful.

Krush.

RTTastic is here because I am seeing her, and I told her that she should come on here and share her skill set. She is good at game. She has been advising (and I must say very well) her guy friends, and I happened to overhear. I mentioned this site as a place she should share her knowledge. I don't think I know you, but trust me, her shit is together when it comes to game.

As for your comment about only wanting to hear from people that sleep with women... WTF are you doing looking at a post on Girl Game? Obviously this is about women picking up guys. It's kinda inherent in the title.

She also has no husband, although I think its funny that you would think that is the summum bonum of what all women want. Ever cross your mind that not every woman is looking for a husband? Go back to your books and check it out.

Just a few thoughts for you to chew on.

Panpan

I said her game is pretty much set, but usually women give the wrong advice to men, as you can see from previous replies she has started some debate. You asked WTF I was doing reading her Girl Game post, well that's a stupid question to ask since 99% of the people on here are men. You must be one of her 90% good luck with that itch in your pants dude.

Hey RTTastic, very nice post. I've been looking for a post on girl game and I'm glad to find one!

Everything you say makes sense/ seems pretty natural but its good to see it written out. The only thing is I agree with what some other people said about how you might be making the guys feel like they're losing manliness... but i guess if you create enough attraction that doesnt matter.

This is what I've come up with as a sort of tactic (I do this at smaller parties not clubs since I'm not 21 yet) :

-first send out a lot of IOIs, like laughing when the guy tells a joke, looking at him a lot when he talks, asking his opinion/ acting somewhat helpless
---> this builds up his confidence, he feels good about himself, so he gets excited to talk to me. this is almost the exact opposite of what guys start out with, because I feel like if girls start out with negs and being cocky the guys just lose interest right away or label the girl as a bitch

-next step: start poking holes in the ego you just inflated. all of a sudden, the lose the great feeling they just had and fall of their little cloud of joy and rainbows. you can do this by giving attention to their friend, giving them negs, calling them out on whatever theyre doing, etc. BUT at the same time keep going back and forth between interested and not so nice.
*this works great when you're playing two guys at the same time.
----> This causes them to try harder. all of a sudden, the good feeling is gone, and you are the one who gave it to them and can give it back. you just elevated your own value.

-after this, eventually you can go back to just being nice, and probably should make it somewhat clear who you're interested in if you were talking to two people at the same time. then, # close, kiss close, whatever... they're all yours.


This is one of my first posts, so any comments/questions will be greatly appreciated

Nice post, not quite so sure why guys are chewing it up so much... i mean it *is* a woman's way, and a woman's opinion. Its not like you are going to convince her otherwise that she is wrong and you are right ...about women, right??

At the very least, this is how she does it, herself. Maybe it doesnt work for you, but maybe you arent the exact kind of guy she is trying to attract? I know that while I am out there flirting and going crazy with the ladies, I want a crazy flirtatious girl, but only on the surface. I dont really want a girl who is out fucking everybody. Yeah, its double morality and what not, but I can imagine that a Female PUA isnt out there looking to score Male PUA's either..

That said, I like when a girl touches me, especially if she is leaving to pee. It definitely keeps me hanging if she is a fun girl, because it solidly conveys her interest as well as her intention of coming back, to me. Makes me feel special. I would say this technique works.

I also think it is important for girls to have some game. Its fun when they push pull with you, when they are smart and a little cocky and can make you laugh. Who wants a boring girl, either in her head or in the bed? Those are things that signify she is anything but.

When I was bartending, I got hit on constantly, and there were more than a few girls who had a lot to learn. Ive got pick of the litter, why do I want some broad just because she jams her tits in my face or tries to shove her tongue down my throat? I might laugh or cop a free feel, but I am basically just using her for entertainment at that point. It was the intriguing girls who knew how to play me right, that got to go home with me.

Turn ons for me, in order of importance. You have to be strong in all of these for me to really want to have a solid relationship and look past the one night stand situation.

-Intelligence, dont worry about being too smart, you dont want to date a guy who is dumber than you. The smarter the better, I want smart kids, too.
-Humor, and lots of it, please. Synomynous with high energy.
-Social Prowess, another intelligence cue, but ties into your empathic abilities as a woman as well. Very important.
-Confidence, but not the stuck-up im a queen fake bullshit, the real deal stuff where you are just outgoing and fun because you know you are cool.
-Sexuality. Believe it or not, this one is last on my list, but its still important. So sexy and physical, yes plz, but prove your worth first, or Im gonna "slut file" you or just think of you as a hot lay.