OK, so let me try to outline the story thus far for everyone.

So I'm in my second year of college, and I decide to join a fraternity with my friends (great decision btw). It opened up a lot of new opportunities as you can imagine, and with that comes the opportunity to meet a lot of new girls in sororities. Hence, enter HB8. I met her at a party that my friend dragged me along to, and long story short just ended up meeting her, introducing myself/herself, and making a bit of small talk. Nothing too big. (This is before I started reading up on PUA stuff which has completely changed my outlook on everything).

So a few weeks go by and I do not see HB8 or talk to her.

Then comes our semi-formal dance. I bring along a good friend as a date, noting special just as friends. Sure enough, HB8 comes to the semi with a fraternity brother, but I don't think as a serious date, just more of a friend date as well.

Night goes along, I'm having a GREAT time, social-proof is through the roof and talking/dancing with everyone. HB8 asks to dance, so we dance to a bunch of songs, very sexual/grinding and a connection was definitely there.

Dancing ends and everyone is waiting in the lobby laughing at the drunken fraternity brothers attempting to break dance in the middle of the floor. I'm sitting on a table talking with my date, and HB8 sits next to me and starts talking. This is when I start to run a bit of game on her.

I teased her, acted cocky-funny, did push-pull, she loved all of it. I even ran the "Your so adorable, I'm going to adopt you as my little sister" routine and she thought it was great. However, that's about where it ended as all of us went back to campus. (no #-close, I know, amateur)

Semester ends, everyone goes home, and I haven't talked to her at all. However, today, on the last day of vacation, the day before I fly back to school, she friends me on facebook.

Sorry for the longwinded backstory, but my main question is how should I proceed? Friend her and start teasing her on facebook, or hope to see her in person when I get back to school and work from there? I know what I want to do when I see her, just not sure which route to take to get there.

facebook has worked many times for me, so you can give it a shot

Hi Amb11, I'm Slywalker. First of all, nice work getting her to contact you on facebook, that means your game must have worked.
I have never been much for the delaying of things by teasing or what not, be direct but cool, since you're flying back to school I asume you are now both in the same town again and you have an opportunity of takin her out on a date. You could either tell her to go out with you on facebook or get her number on facebook and then taking her out. Since you have already been cocky funny I say thats the way to go. Get her number in a cocky funny way, say something like "I lost my phone number, give me yours instead" or something like that. Be sure when you tell her to go out with you to not ask her out, tell her to go out with you.
And about the number closeing, when you want a girls number act like it's the smallest deal in the world, like before you leave her to go back to your friends, just say "oh I don't have your number do I" I do this and I can easily pick 10 numbers per night. good luck!

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Hey thanks for the responses guys. I'll definitely put it to work and let you know how it goes.

OK, so I've hit kind of a road block. I haven't seen her yet at school as I thought, so I started the convo on facebook with the message system (only me and her can see it). Here's how it's gone so far (over hte span of about 3 days).

Amb11: hey little sis! how have you been?

HB8: I've been good!!! I am sick now though from recruitment

What have you been up to?

Amb11: Sick?? show's what a good sorority sister you are...

HB8: hey hey. I have been to every event so far! I just can't say much at them because I have no voice lol

Amb11: lol nice so they know you as the wierd girl that's always around but doesn't talk much



And that's it. She hasn't responded to that for about 3 days. I'm not sure if she doesn't want to or is offended or doesn't know how to respond or what? I know she's been online facebook and has seen the message, so she has chosen not to respond. I figured I'd just throw her two playful negs and then get the actual convo going. Did I do something wrong or is she playing hard to get?

Also, how should I get the convo rolling again?

You may want to use Facebook to setup a get together instead of asking her out for a date. Tell her you are going to be somewhere that is really cool and she would have a great time if she came to meet you. It makes you look like you are doing cool things and she could be a part of it if she hung out with you. Also, from what you said it kind of sounds like you are stuck in an extended open. You are dangerously close to falling into the LJBF zone. You have to start showing her that you are interested in her more than as a little sister. You hooked her. Now reel her in. Good luck

Yeah, I figured it was time to start escalating things after throwing two little teases at her, but since she hasn't responded for a couple of days I'm not sure what to do. Just keep the message going by saying something like "hey, i'm doing xxx on yyy and i want to see you there." type thing?

throw a party and invite her to come along with some friends. if you can't throw a party invite her to someone elses and tell her to bring some friends if she wants. just make sure the party is not lame and show her what an alpha male your are at the party. once she acknowledges you as that alpha male, she will be all over you like shrimp on rice. if you like the idea of facebook just send her an invite or something.

you can also try some texting game. send her something funny that will get her to think of you. the longer you wait, the less likely anything will happen. just remember... there are many fish in the sea. YOU ARE A FUCKING BARRACUDA!

Hey Amb How are you? Congrats on getting as far as you did. Let's Tackle this once and for all.
Let's talk about using Cocky Funny, it's a good technique. However, most poeple don't know how to properly use it. Two different mistakes happen when using Cocky Funny:

-Mistake 1. People use it well but over-due the routine to where it becomes annoying.
-Mistake 2. People don't use it correctly, coming off as too offensive.
In this case: you didn't use it correctly, coming off as too offensive.

Imagine if a stranger called you " a little bitch. "

Versus someone you've known for a while calling you that. Chances are, it wouldn't come off as threatening from someone you know versus a stranger.

It's ok to be cocky funny. However, you have to remember in the beginning of ANY relationship, people are trying to figure each other out. (who they are, what they like,dislike, if they can take jokes, etc.)

Calling the other person names or categorizing them is risky. - in this case, you categorized her as an Awkard character by calling her weird. I am sure it made her uncomfortable because she didn't know you well enough to call her names of that degree.



You have to screen someone (screening: finding out information about someone by a number of things, one example is questioning. ) to see what jokes they will be able to take and to what degree.

I hope this gives you clarity on what happened
All the best,
TimmyD

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Yeah it does. Thank you for clarifying that. I understand the jist off cocky funny, but I definitely did overdo it now that I look back at it. Think there's any shot of getting this back on track or should I just mark it as a loss and move on?

I'm not so sure you went to far with the cocky funny or the negging or whatever you want to call it. The problem is you kept doing it. You created attraction with the help of CF or negging but at some point you have to move along to the next phases and build some comfort. To do that you have to back off the negs/CF or you just come off as a**hole. Remember CF is used to show you her you could not care less if she walks off. If you never stop though, she's going to walk off. Remember why you neg in the first place. You're breaking down her shields. Once you've lowered them you have to scale it back or you just come off as mean or worse a friend who isn't interested in her sexually. You have to transition into the next phase once you have her hooked.

Send her a text or contact her through Facebook and tell her to meet you somewhere and then start building some rapport and comfort with her. Don't beg though. That's just sad and besides sometimes it is easier to start with a new girl than trying to fix something you screwed up with a girl.

Hi Amp

I would say you still have a chance, it may not be big, but you still have a chance.

I would suggest:
step 1. giving a reason to why you were being inconsiderate
step2. apoligize
step3. make a joke to lighten up the awkard moment of the message.

For example:
Step1.(apologize) Hey *(insert name)* I want to apologize if I came off as a jerk the last message

Step2.(reason) Someone cut in front of me in line at the post office

Step3. (make a joke) I took it out by calling several people mean names such as " weird, or turtleface "

Step4: (closing) I am having to spend the whole day apologizing to all my victims (you being one)

But be safe and I hope all is well with you


So in the end, your message should look something like this:

Hey *(insert name)* I want to apologize if I came off as a jerk the last message. Someone in cut in front of me in line at the post office, I took it out by calling several people mean names such as " weird, or turtleface."
I am having to spend the whole day apologizing to all my victims (you being one)

But be safe and I hope all is well with you




This is what I like to call " The Final Stand "
It's a final message ( on text or done in person ) I send to a girl after seriously fucking up, and realize there's still a chance . . . it's a small chance. But, still a chance.


It's basically " one last message." If she comes back, she'll come back. If not, than move on.



So send her your "Final Stand " and Good luck.

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Heh, looks like the "final stand" worked for now. I wrote her this about 3 hrs ago and got an answer immediately (after no answer to the tease for 3 days).

Amb11: hey i want to apologize if i came off as a jerk saying that, i was just trying to tease you but i don't think it worked haha. from now on, call me all the mean names you want and i promise not to cry =)

HB: haha I knew you were messing around. I just got really busy so I didn't have time to answer you. You are not a jerk big bro!!


Now I just have to tell her to meet me somewhere and we should get this rolling.

Ha Ha Very Nice Amp !

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I like your version of the "Final Stand."-- Very simple and not complicated

Yes, get her to meet you somewhere and get this rolling.


The first thing I would do is set up the conversation so eventually, I can give her a legitimate reason why I enjoy her company.

In this case I would try to relive "good memories " of the frat days with her.

I'd say Something like
She will agree, from here set up logistics and you will have a date.


Done, and DONE

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That definitely sounds like a good idea. Too bad she doesn't drink to get drunk though haha so that example won't really work. I'll think of something along those lines though.

The only thing is we have a mixer (where a fraternity goes to a bar with a sorority, complete shit show where everyone is drunk and hook ups are most likely to ensue) Feb. 20 and it is with her sorority. Since that's about a month away, I want to have gone on a few "dates" with her and see where it takes me so by the time we have the mixer, everything will be good to go.