Hey guys... I'm starting to frequent night clubs with booming music and huge dance floors. Like places where there IS no isolation, there is ONLY dance. Talking usually doesn't work unless it's quick, loud, and in broken english so she understands.

I'd like someone to explain how to go from grinding, to making out, to your place.... Obviously HBs love attention and grinding will get that attention. Obviously kino escalation isn't an issue. It's more of an attraction(?) issue? So on the dance floor, how do you hit the attraction switches? How do you become more than "that random guy"?

I can't dance, so all of this is rather unnatural for me, but I want to learn how to pull from the clubs!

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I've thought about this, and I can only think of 2 possible solutions...... ultimate peacocking with glow sticks or something that nobody else in the room has.... or learning to dance as a DHV and getting the whole room's attention with your smooth moves.

Comments?

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Here's one way to do it:

http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy8u1lsLBcE

Don't really know how the hell he does this, but fuck it, it works. Can't say I've ever really bothered with dance floor game but I think not seeming too eager and a bit of physical push pull, back turning, that kind of shit to show some degree of disinterest helps. I'm sure lots here know more than me about this.

If you want to get good at game though I'd find a quiter club or somewhere with a smoking area or the likes.

Club game is something I've perfected in a short amount of time.

The basic thing you have to know is that it's not about talking, negs, etc.
It's all about primitive body language and sexual lust. People are like animals on the dance floor and trying to talk to people there is just plain silly.
Just smile allot and have good body language and...sex appeal

There are allot of different approaches I've made at club game but the most succesful, from best to worst are as follows:

1- sex appeal.

Just be hot, that's all you gotta do. Workout, get a nice style and LOOK APPROACHABLE (smile allot, look like you are having fun) and just stand at the right places on the dancefloor (where the girls are lol).

Girls approaching you:
Usually after awhile of just being pretty girls will come up to me with the most idiotic approaches (girls have weak game really, they depend on their physical appearance) asking all kinds of stupid questions.
The trick here is to not to jump on them right away out of excitement but just stay cool, give a politically correct answer and then just kinda make them leave by telling them you'll dance or talk to them later.
You have just shown them that you are not needy at all.

Approaching girls:
If you just keep smiling and looking at girls you'll notice that allot of them are looking back at you and smiling and sometimes getting closer etc.
You can then easily approach them with whatever you want, but keep the lines EXTREMELY short and simple or just start dancing with them.
Usually you will notice they like you cuz they will grab hold of you an awfull lot when talking to you and will lean in very close etc. You can easily apply some light kino by putting your arm on their shoulders or hips when talking to them etc.
The same as above, leave after a short while.

After a few minutes of leaving them alone (or doing the same with different girls) you come back to your target when the right song or whatever comes up and you can start talking or dancing a bit more...this time for like 2-3 songs before you leave her again.

2- The "Dancer"

This approach is pretty simply once you know how to dance...it comes down to being a Patrick Swayze on the dancefloor and be an attention whore .
Dancing on the Podium and having everybody take a good look at who you are etc is usually bound to have a few girls having the guts to approach you and either compliment you on your skills on want to dance with you.
Also you have to keep an eye open for girls who are eye-fucking you all the time (like in the sex appeal approach) so you can approach them later.
If you have a good reputation as a dancer that night you can dance with almost any girl.
Be aware though, that some girls just like you bcuz of the dance skills, so they might not particularly be interested in YOU. With dances like Salsa this can very often be the case. Allot of girls just like to dance and couldn't care less with who they dance, as long as they can dance.

3- The "crew/VIP" approach.
This one requires only one thing = money.
If you go to a club with a few people, order bottles and just hang around in the VIP area feeling to good to mix with the ordinary plebs, you are bound to have some girls getting all over you.
But make sure its obvious that YOU are the TOP DOG of the crew.
This is something I don't do much cuz you spend allot of money but it works every time. You can occasionaly walk trough the crowd and invite some girls over to the VIP area etc etc.

4 - The pickup artist approach.
This is the one we all know about....people walking around the crowd asking girls stupid questions and making stupid comments and trying to CONVINCE girls to like them (the other approaches are you usually you acting on them eye fucking you etc) by throwing all kinds of tricks at them.
This one has the highest rejection rate and a few possible number closes etc.
But it's not really my type...I used to do it but my new theory is that I shouldnt convince girls to like me...

See it like this...you have 2 types of merchants;
The ones that try to convince you to buy their product and will go very far with this...giving you discounts, money back guarantee etc.
They will get allot of hesitant costumers and allot of them will just walk away.
Then you have people selling products like a new Xbox where people will stand in line at 6 in the morning to get it before it's sold out....now the COSTUMER is interested and will go far to get the product and convince the merchant they deserve the product.

The last one is more like my style.

number close:
It's a club, you don't number close before you kiss close and preferably, you DON'T number close...You wanna know why? Cuz you might dig eachother in the club, but outside in daily life chances are that the two of you have nothing in common....you were just attracted to eachothers sex appeal thats it...If you take them out for a walk in the park and try to have a conversation it often turns out to be very awkward.

So for the kiss close; have lots of heavy kino and grinding (or static grinding, which looks like grinding but you dont move, you just stay in a 'hugging' position face to face for a abnormal long time lol). If you are in this position it's very easy to start making out and it's not uncommon for girls to make the first move here either..since your lips are only about an inch apart lol.

Try to take keep your kiss closes hidden cuz if you want to get the max out of your night (get as much girls, future targets etc) you should try to keep that "he's already taken" imago hidden. So preferably make out in places where you're targets aren't around.

For the Fuck Closes you just steer the direction into : "how are you going home? where are you sleeping?" etc
which usually leads to detailed explanations about their where abouts and you just have to find a playful way to incorporate yourself into her "homecoming" if you know what I mean.
A very stupid example I can give that will work if it's hot enough "I bet you don't even have a tv at home!" and lead the conversation there to ending where it's obvious that you are going home with her etc.

Oh yeah, and for the number close, just set up a future appointment and make her aware of your plans for the weekend and tell her she has to call you tomorrow to check what you are doing and then kind off make suggestions that you are leaving (turning your shoulders away).
if she likes you enough, she WILL stop you in desperation and be like : "HEy! I dont have your number!"
If not, just make them take your number.
I find it much better to give girls my number then to take numbers, cuz it shows interest on their part too.




some small tips:
- Get the music they play at your local clubs...and listen to it in your spare time, this way you will know all the breaks etc and the vibe of that song. So you can improve your dancing skills.
- Try to go out with female friends
- Try to go out with guys who have game or sex appeal
- Dont buy women drinks, make them buy drinks for you
- If women offer to buy you drinks, stay in the same price range as their drinks, dont abuse.


Hope this helps, if you have any more questions just let me know.

1.A REALLY REALLLY fundamental part of inner game is to approach situations as a buyer.

If your trying to get them to like you; your desparate and you should re-evaluate why you are out sarging, do you want a good time for yourself.. or for them?

2. I wouldn't consider even purist MM game to be "tricks", seeing as the choice to feel attracted or to be seduced has nothing to do with conscious choice in the first place.

3. If you are going to be running indirect game, )well when I do it, I'm ridiculously flirtatious, so most women know the reason I approached them of the bat.) You should be with a group and then only opening in between conversation. Rather than stalking round the club. Which people clock immediatly. Strangely enough it has VERY high success rates, becuase it just isn't done that often, and when it is, it's done very poorly by those who have no idea what they are doing.

4. If by other approaches your talking about the more direct, attraction wise; theirs alot more to it than just relying on them liking you.

Otherwise at OP.

I think AFC Adam, did some stuff on this.

I don't like club game per say, but it's recommended if you want to have the advantage of talking, then your going to have to turn up early, and establish some rapport and vibes around the venue.

excellent, excellent posts!

That chick that got snubbed in the AFC adam video... wow! Look how awkward she looks! I bet that doesn't happen a lot with her, and I bet that's what would make "this guy" memorable!

I need to read the rest a few times to internalize it, but all very good stuff. Thanks guys! If you have anything else, keep it coming!

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One amazing opener i have used at several gay clubs (a plethora of amazingly gorgeous straight and by sexual women) is to make eye contact and bust out my phone (a blackberry, DHV) and type out a quick message with something along the lines of "i noticed you noticing me, and i just wanted to let you know that i noticed you, it felt as if you were undressing me with your eyes and i was wondering why your so shy)

Yeah been there done that.
But as you mentioned in your own post, it's not what you say...the girl was ALREADY eye fucking you right?
If a girl in a club is sexually interested in you and is looking at you constantly and trying to get your attention indirectly...it doesn't really matter WHAT you say to her...she Will get very clingy anyways; smile, lean in, grab you when she's talking to you, trying to grind you etc.

So for me, the opener is not important at all. It's making them eye fuck you. Because if you have that you can do WHATEVER you want and they will still be all over you..unless you really fuck up lol...but it's hard.


Oh and I doubt that a blackberry is a DHV. Women are seldom impressed by your phone, and the ones that are are the ones you should avoid
I know this very well cuz I've picked up girls when on vacation with the cheapest phones, while being broke and what not. They don't care, as long as they like you

Also I would make my opener ALLOT shorter...cuz a club is very hectic etc and the chance that they will misread the message or get discouraged by the length of it is bigger.
I would say keep it short and simple.

Most of the time I pick up women in clubs, I barely talk and can hear about half of what they say. It's all about bodylanguage and HEAVY kino.

Your main issue and first one is just isolating them. Its hard to create attraction on the dance floor, sex appeal yeah easy, but attraction is different.
Imagine that the dance floor is just an opener, and to phase shift, you need to complete the attraction phase. Get her to the bar (standing up) and then take her outside for a smoke to build some comfort, or to some sofas in the corner. The rest is easy. Its just isolating from the dance floor, her friends will want to protect her and all kinds of factors which may stop you two being alone.

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Just a note on grinding. Use push pull technique. Let her grind on you then push her away. Smile take her hand and start dancing again. Spin her around and grind once more. I always find this builds huge attraction.