Yes, some guys do, but many don't. But that's a good thing b/c its part of the weeding out process. If I constantly have to knock a guy over his head for him to realize something then is he really worth my time in the first place?

And no, often direct communication does not work. Say you've been seeing a guy for a bit and its going well and want to know where its going. So you sit him down one day and have a direct communication with him and say "hey jupura, where do you see this relationships going? are you seeing other girls?? can you stop!! I think we really like each other and should be together!" Probably not the best idea...

There is no way to actually control someone. No matter what you do, they still have the free will. There are things you can do to improve yourself and your interactions with them and if they decide they like those interactions then they will choose to do something.

But the point is you shouldn't be trying to control anyone...you should should be trying to collaborate. How can you both get the best out of the relationship. It shouldn't be a battle about who can make the other person do what they want. If you can show people how something benefits them, they are more likely to accept it willingly than reluctantly (or not at all).

I would so love to have a girl sit down and say that to me. It would actually go over quite well with me actually. But I see what your saying and maybe direct is the wrong word to use. I am just saying that a lot of girls make things too subtle for guys to pick up and I seen it cause problems in relationships, and if girls where less subtle they may be able to keep the guy around a lot better? Maybe a better way to put it is make a strong hint to what the girl wants instead of going out right direct?

Meh, maybe you're right. I'll try this out and let you know how it goes

got with a lady PUA tonight I think, long story short use the line "tell me something interesting" it is genius we talked for about 5 minutes off hte back of that one request.

Jay hit on some good points:

Society has told us that men do the approaching. But with that old school view, women have to choose the best guy out of the group of men that had enough courage to talk to her (i.e. she is settling). Sometimes she may get lucky and a great guy will approach her and settling isn't so bad...but if women start approaching men, they can meet guys that they are attracted to as well. And the more people that a woman meets, the better chance one of those guys is a really awesome guy.

Which brings me to my next point (and Jaybot's point), women (straight ones) are looking for men of high value. This doesn't mean he has to own a porshe, a penthouse suite, and a 6 figure salary. It has nothing to do with money. Women want to meet guys that are fun, know how to turn them on, and know how interact with them. That is naturally left up to interpretation because not everyone is looking for the same type of person.

Female game is much different and yet somewhat the same as guy game. Male PU was originally (and still for the most part) designed for men to be able to have sex with more women. *Note* I'm not saying that this is the sole purpose of all guys...there are guys who want other things out of it and sex is not mutally exclusive with those other facets. But female game is not designed to allow women to have sex with more men. You're right, women can have sex much easier than men if they wanted to have sex with any random person (although that isn't true acroos the board--there are men that turn down women bc they are just some random person, they arent attractive enough etc...).

But along with that, not all women are knockouts. Not all women are 7s, 8s, 9s (oh god the rating scale!! ). So what are the 5s suppose to do? Sit back and be lonely? Lower their standards because they are not pretty enough to attract a high quality man that is also attractive? That isn't really fair and a double standard. But PU can be for all women whether you are a 1 or a "10." It is about how to interact with guys. Think of women that you dating that you dumped because she was crazy, possessive, just not interesting, just didn't push your buttons etc...

All-in-all I think the main focus of female PU is that most (though not all) are looking for relationships and not many guys and much sex. Lines and routines are not that big of a deal. You can throw a line in there now and then but high value guys respond to attention and interest. If you ignore a high value guy too long he will move on. Negging isn't really needed, though teasing and flirting are great. Kino is a must. And an understanding of how guys work and feel is a great bonus. When I talk about things from a male perspective they are amazed that I understand them to that degree.

And last and certainly not least, looks. Women must learn that guys judge looks a lot more than women (though wome still place a great amount on looks as well). For women who don't have model looks or even close to them, those women need to learn how to not be friend-zoned. After doing as much as they can for their appearance, they need to know the tricks to get guys thinking of them as more than just a friend (and thus another long post so I'll stop there). Feel free to message me if you have more questions because that is definately not everything to it.

I think this is a major misunderstanding. I have come across many guys who think girls have it so easy. But I know a lot of women who get shut down by guys, don't know how to attract guys, and do not know how to maintain relationships. All women are different so even if a girl gives you advice, it may not be true for ALL women. So while you gather info about them through gossip remember to calibrate it....and remember, women don't have relationships worked out to a science...some are really bad at it.

You did notice that I put pick in quotes right? As there was a reason for "pick" and not pick. As far as success goes everyone has their own meaning of success.
Neither. I hate being controlled and any girl that tries to control me will find that she can't and if she continues to try to, she will be in a very sticky situation.

I am curious why do you seek out such control? Wouldn't you rather want a guy to stick around because he was actually interested in you. Or do you want a guy to stick around because you are controlling him to do so? I am not trying to pick a fight, but I seen what this type of control can do to people and it is not pretty. I can see in a way why you think you need to do this, but there are other ways to keep a guy around.
If you read my post again I think you will see that I am not talking about relationships, but the first encounter where boy meets girl and girl meets boy. When it comes to relationships, no one has it easier as it takes two to tango.

I am just saying that a lot of girls make things too subtle for guys to pick up and I seen it cause problems in relationships, and if girls where less subtle they may be able to keep the guy around a lot better? Maybe a better way to put it is make a strong hint to what the girl wants instead of going out right direct?

you're misinterpretting. She means to get a guy to be interested in her so much that he wants to provide for her. You have to understand relationships a little more before you can make jumps like that. It isn't about control, it is about giving and receiving.

you really have to go over to the relationships section and do a little reading. It is both people who need to have proper communication, and the appropriate time, in the best way. It isn't about someone's fault. If she is being subtle, then you are being too thick to understand. If you are being too think, how is she supposed to convey it? We are talking about TWO people in a relationship; not one.