Ok, well i started talking to this girl when i was in a LTR. I was always C&F just cause its in my nature, i've got game but i need to know if im in the friend zone.

So when I was in the LTR, I always talked to this girl, AMOG'd other guys around, and was C&F, but i decided to be like "so yea we are pretty much bff now", so now she always calls me her bff. I hung out with her last night, and i always did lots of kino, and i think i need to be more direct. She has been giving me some IOI's and last night I negged her a bit trying to get out of the friend zone by saying "I don't think I can be your bff if you keep making these rude comments". I DHV'd alot when we hung out, and as soon as we left, she texted me and we chatted for a while. I'm gonna see her today, what do I need to do to get out of the friend zone?

I actually get the vibe that she wants to get with me, but she has a pretty big ego, so I need to know what I can do

Thanks,
Shifty

Shifty,

Get the playful fun mood going while sexualizing the conversation. Then it's simple, just kino escalate to test the waters and keep escalating. If she stops you then you know what's coming and you'll pretty much have to back off. Make sure it's a legitimate objection and not just causual LMR. If she doesn't stop you keep going and have fun!

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How can I sexualize the conversation?

Remember when you were like 12 or 13 and always a pervert about every statement. You could find something sexual about anything. Okay, that is roughly the mindset I want you to be in but a little more 'tactful' then when you were that old.

Anyways, you can say a few things to make it sexual without talking about sex. I like misinterpretting things for this reason. I just interpret it as a sexual advance on her part even though it's not. I might it like she's trying to go all sexual on me.

Example of stuff I do to my girlfriend.

Her: Do you want to play a game of chess?
Me: Excuse me. (look shocked) Did you just say do you want to play a game with my chest?
Her: No silly, chess.
Me: The first one sounded more exciting but sure.

Here's an in-field example of one of the guys who is great at it, but he takes it to another level. Here's El Topo on Mehow's Infield Insider sexualizing the conversation from the opener. He was on Mehow's top 8 pua list this year.

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Thanks so much, i think she's really interested in me . We're hanging out tomorrow, how should i try to kiss close?

Just saw your post sorry. YES go for the kiss!

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Been around the world twice, Talked to everyone once...

The kiss close is fairly simple. After a good amount of comfort and kino I would go with the "So from 1-10, how would you rate yourself as a kisser?". They usually say a high number but right after she answers, in a smooth tone, say "Let's see". Remember to maintain eye contact and try to get a somber, yet attentive look (head tilted to the side slighty, paying full attention to what she says, Basically "Bed eyes") to you b/f you go in for the kill.
We do expect a follow up so let us know how you do buddy.
Good luck

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This isn't a trend, it's a lifestyle

Okay, I'm a little frustrated right now, so I am going to vent to you guys.

Alright, this girl is at least an HB8, I always rate low. well I was doing SO Well, getting major kino, i gave her a massage, we were holding hands, running routines, kino escalating and then the worst thing possible happened. I got COCK BLOCKED by her little best friend AFC who is literally 5'3. He is her little pet and he doesn't even like girls, never even kissed one, and he just like cuddles up to her. She clearly didn't want him there as much as I did, I tried to isolate discretely, but AMOG'ing him would have been a DLV because he is her best friend, and he just fucking stuck around until we both had to go, and I was just so pissed off by the time we had to go, and OF COURSE he goes "can i walk you back ashley?" in his AFC voice, and I knew he wouldn't fucking back off. I'm dealing with high school game here and this little guy is a little fucking devil. I know this sounds like I got out-gamed but that's not how it was at all, I had her until this fuckin lingerer comes and BLOCKS MY COCK.
I played it off as not being needy and not being too interested, and she ate it up, but on the inside i was smashing my head on a desk.
He was like a mother hen, but I told her tonight that next time we should definitely hang out alone and she was like "I KNOW, he wouldn't leave."

I'm going to Toronto tomorrow for a hockey tournament
though, so i will be sarging there and get my mood a bit better.