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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:26 pm 
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I recently started a kickboxing class and to my suprise and pleasure there is a Perfect 10!! Brunette twenty years old and could easily be the next playmate of the year. I tried to play it cool in the beggining and not notice her too much. I eventually started a conversation with her with a "help me with my gloves" opener. She was very friendly and agreed to be my sparing partner that day. I had a little too much small talk and found out where she went to schoo and her name and those dull types of things. Now Ive been trying to tease her and display value but for some reason im not getting any IOIs. When I neg her she seems to shut down a little bit, its wierd! Maybe my negs are too harsh. Im considering spending more time with a few of her friends in the class and making them attracted to me while ignoring her. Because every guy in the place is ripped as hell and guaking at her all day I have to get her through my wit. Please give some advice anything that can help.


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What kind of negs are you using?

Negs are a very delicate balance that need to be practiced.
So it's very possible you're confusing her.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:18 am 
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Just stuff like "are you sure you want to train today? you were kinda lagging yesterday." I might have punished her to much when she didnt dserve it. Where do I go from here? In her mind Im a guy that dosnt necisarily have a lot of value that negged her too much. Just concentrate on gaining value with her friends in the class while ignoring her for a while?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:38 am 
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I'd agree there.
Even Mystery will only neg a girl up to three times. Anything more than that and the girl will think you're just a jerk. If you game her and then you over-neg her, she'll get really confused.
Your best bet now is to show value and start showing some more interest in the girl, maybe even throw in a few compliments.
Don't become a drooling everyman, stay in your frame, but drop the negs and show her your a bit more of a gentleman.

No promises it'll work but I think that's your best bet.
Over-negging is a common problem, but don't worry. Women are used to AFCs so it takes a lot for them to give up entirely.

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Complement her on her energy, tell her that you find that kind of spunk attractive in most women. (Keyword = most)


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Ok so I ignored her quite a bit today and started making alot of the other girls in the class laugh. I was using the best friend test and stuff like that on them which they were eating up. I wasnt sure if my target was noticing or not. At the end of the class I used the gambit about my ex girlfriend the"exotic dancer" and how I protected her, right in front of my target to a guy friend of hers. I could she her wieght starting to shift in towards me as I spoke but I didn't look at her. She wanted to hear what I was saying . So I feel I may have covieghed more value today even though we didnt have any direct contact. I'm thinking about using the lint neg next class and then as Im about to walk away say "hey there is something I want to try" , and running the esp rutine or Mystery's magic fingers routine. Any suggestions?


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