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"Who do you think you are"
"Excuse me"
"You don't know me"

are the comments I get from females. hahaha. Yes! I get it a lot. I am a man that loves tension with women. Out in the field I demonstrate high value, and neg and say things to HB10s that only a disinteresting person would say.

Why? My psychology is pretty simple. Create tension with women and I'm good to go. I want them to hate me. Really I don't but it's the easiest direction I can go to continue a conversation.

Carrying a conversation is a big problem for me. I have energy, I'm fun, I can give a speech in front of thousands of people...my main problem is keeping a conversation going and flowing. When I am talking to people face to face, my body language and my complete swagger outshine this one flaw because I'm spinning women around, kino...having fun...but when it comes to convo, I feel trapped...Put aside all these canned openers and DHV stories. I'm talking about regular conversation.

Example

HB 10 is walking around in a bar, I'll lock our arms together and walk in her direction

HB 10: "What are you doing?"
ME: ssshhh, taking you on an adventure
HB 10: Where
ME:to a magical kingdom, you like lions etc
HB: lol blah blah blah

(BTW, I'm great at creating pick up lines) Then i'll cut all that bullshit out and talk to her, I'll say, what's up, where you from etc etc...

My problem occurs when it comes to formulating responses. when it comes to carrying and leading conversation, I'll ask her a question I'm now quickly thinking about the best way to respond to her answer. And I'm like..."Uhhhh, what the fuck do I say next" she's 20, from dallas, goes to school here in the city. How can I make here laugh, what kind of tease should I tell her based on her response. I've been searching but there isn't a book or video on this issue. My problem is just general conversation (my fear is sounding boring, dull, predictable, familiar which is why I don't call the people I pick up)

This kills me because I internally know the theory behind PICK UP...I can break down concepts and explain and I'm natural at putting on a demonstration (which looks like pure improv because of conversational aspect uncertain) but I'm just not quick enough to come up great responses...what do I do?

Suggestions on how to work on general conversation???
Books, tapes, speech pathology anything that will help me become greatand quick at it...

Be yourself man. What is interesting about you? What have you done in your life that makes you interesting? What kind of hobbies do you have?
Your prob already generating responses.

When you are talking to a girl, listen to her. If you get stuck and dont know what to say, play a little game...do a secret handshake or some shit till you figure out what to talk about.

If you want to really learn how to talk to woman and get in contact with thier subconcious mind I would study Ross Jefferies and subjects on NLP

John C

just read other forums on mid game stuff and find stacking material i use a little joke or a random fact and that usually leds me into a story or sometimes a huge convo about random stuff

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Alright, this is a really common problem that I usually see on the first night of program...

You get comfortable approaching girls, but after 2-3 minutes, the conversation winds down and you don't know what to say.

The thing that you have to realize is... If you are running out of things to say/worried what to say, you are coming from the wrong frame.


It comes from the idea of "Who is impressing who?"

When you are worrying about what to say, or what you are doing... You are worrying about the impression you give the girl.

Instead you should be coming from the higher value frame of, "Who are you? Justify yourself? What do you have to offer ME?"

It's coming at it from the other side, YOU are the one screening HER to see if she is up to par.

Just like when you are talking to a 5 year old you don't run out of things to say, you shouldn't run out of things to say when you are talking to her either because you don't know if she is even suitable to talk with...
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As a beginner I understand it is hard to internalize the frame of being "higher value". Some techniques that work, and others have mentioned here...

-Speak with statements not questions.
-LOWER your bar for what is acceptable to talk about. -Women speak on an emotional level, it's about what you are subcommunicating through your touch, body language, eye contact, vocal tonality... that counts, not the words that are coming out of your mouth.
-If you are INTERESTED in the topic, you will be INTERESTING. -she just wants to know what you are interested in, it doesn't have to pertain to her or some bullshit about dresses or relationships...

Also, realize that getting physical early on helps give a sexual charge to the conversation, and makes it less likely to stale out.


And for overcoming it... Just STICK IN THERE. It's just new uncomfortable territory, and just like opening, you just need to stick at it until you feel comfortable 30 minutes into the conversation.

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Thx guys. Brad, I'm great when it comes to DHV. I put myself on a high pedestal. That's my character. My problem is regular conversation. Even when I'm with friends at times, I don't have much to say. This problem is a general problem. Do I have to read interesting things, is there sites to get interesting facts? Is this something I have to do? Any advice?

Think beforehand of good stories that you can tell well or topics you can make universally interesting and are knowledgeable about and note that she has to be able to talk about these as well.

I actually have the very same problem and it just now made me wonder; maybe my life is boring, I of course come to the conclusion that It was not

Note though, that I'm almost completely new to the whole life of PUA, but here's something that might help, just of the top of my head, here's something that might help. Think of a bunch of cool/memorable events you had. For example, I went to paris for a high society ball roadtrip and all, but now I come to think of it, I actually never told anyone that story.

That's probably true for a lot of stuff that happens to people, they're stuffed into your passive memory. So actively recall them before you go out, so you have some fresh stories. If neccesary, make a list in your head or even write it out.

Cool post, hope this is of any help to you

In addendum to Chrissie, go through photo albums or pics of you on facebook to jog your memory of awesome.

Is there a psychology to everyday conversation?...If we think about what friends talk about and dissect it...It's primaraly just stories and connections...So if one doesn't have anything going on in life, what stories do one come up with.

I mean lets break it down here

JIM: What's up
TOM: Chillen what's up with you
Jim: You checked out the game last night
Tom: The lakers game
JIM: Yea
TOM: Hell yea, dude dropped 41 pts
JIM: You can't stop Kobe
conversation about this will die down about 10 more back and forths


JIM: What's up
TOM: Chillen what's up with you
JIM: You checked the game last night
Tom: The lakers game
JIM: hell yea you seen kobe
TOM: KOBE had an okay game
JIM: The dude had 41 pts
TOM: Kobe is alright, he only plays well against bad teams...

conversation will last longer than the first because of disagreement

If one takes the conversation in a negative way, then their is more to talk about because of argrument but when one agrees then their is less to say...Which is why I mostly have a lot of tension with women because I don't want to conversation to die down...